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Dickinson with .008" and .008" fixed chokes, WW 3/4 oz. factory 3" load at 20 yds. These were shot for regulation testing, but show what a dense, though small, pattern it is. This is a pattern easily good for another 5-10 yds. on a dove.

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More choke will extend the range to 30-35 yards easily.

All the conventional thinking and looking at patterns in magazines means nothing. Shooting your gun with your loads on a plate or paper is the only way to see for yourself.

Once more for the record .................... shot from a .410 is just as deadly as shot from a 12 ga., if it is at the same velocity. The important thing is having sufficient density in the pattern to put a sufficient number of them in the bird.

SRH

Pretty nice little Beretta w/30" barrels and sufficient weight @ 6lb. 9 oz.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101039936
JR

I use nothing smaller than 7 1/2 on Dove with the .410. 7�s if I can find a bag to reload. I shoot mostly 2 1/2� shells at 1300 FPS which pattern very well in my gun. Later season Dove, may be best shot with 3� shells because they tend to be better feathered and just a bit smarter. Remington 3� 7 1/2�s and 6�s pattern well in my 42 but I have not used sixes on late season Dove. They did take pen raised pheasant last year.

I don�t like 8 1/2 or 9�s as some recommend for Dove or Qual, trying to increase the number of pellets in the payload. Flyers, using small pellets will not kill birds but one or two 7-7 1/2 will if well placed. Four or five 9�s won�t at range. I am a big proponent of knowing ranges and sticking within ranges you can shoot well. Give me a 12-18� working pattern, which is what a .410 can give you at proper chokes and decent range and I can take Dove all day long. I don�t like the 6-9� patterns when Dove get so close its like shooting a High or Low 8 in Skeet. I just let them go and say a few choice words.

I have been thinking about taking my 42 with me to Argentina next year if I go. I�ll put up with the hassle to see if I can kill 1,000 dove a day once with it.

Lots of great suggestion, I chase doves with a little AYA #2, 410 with 28" barrel mod/full. I also have an old R.E.M. Model 11-48 Auto in 410. Lots of fun.
Keep us posted on what you end up with

Just now spotted this on SBFG site:
https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/winches...-410-2?rq=18951
Great little gun, priced just a bit high though. I wouldn't wait if you like it...
JR

.410 O/Us are a lot of fun. I just restocked mine, as the buttstock that came with it was just way too high. I found a cracked field model buttstock in NV, repaired the crack and fitted it. Turned out perfect for me, shoots much better now, and doves better watch out this coming season (which, but the way, is 44 days, 13 hrs., 52 mins., and 38 seconds away).

It's the Verona, made by I. Rizzini, and a great quality little Italian O/U. 30" barrels, choked .004" btm. and .011" top. Maybe the most undervalued O/U on the market today.





SRH

Stan, pity the barrels are up and down instead of the proper way, side by side. It does look like a fun gun. Hope you shoot it well.

Yeah, I know. But it's still a fun gun, and it has another set of barrels with it's own forend in 28. This will be the first hunting season that I'll really get to give it a good wringing out on doves. I've tried it on sporting clays with the 28 barrels, and the new buttstock, and shot a 84 on medium difficulty targets. I was pleased with that. Tied the high man on our squad who shot an 84 with his 12 ga.

Look out doves.

SRH

What are you looking for sbs or o/u?


John

PALUNC,

All the .410's mentioned so far are nice guns, I have one more modern .410 to add to the list. The L.C. Smith made by Zabala for Marlin a few years back, is a real nice SxS double gun, for gunning Doves and Woodcock.

The original L.C. Smith .410 is still available also, however way out of your quoted price range. If you would like a very high quality .410, Ken Graft at the Shooting Star Gun Shop had an upgraded L.C. Smith .410 with deep relief gold Engraving for around $14,000, that he offered to me, he may still it.

I own the modern L.C. Smith 28 Gauge almost identical to the Zabala made .410, and like it a bunch. The L.C. Smith .410 has nice Walnut Wood, a Purdey type lock up Breech Work, Flur De Lee checkering, SST, nice modern Spanish Engraving and Chrome lined Barrels, and comes with 4 flush type screw in chokes.

The draw back is no Brown Rotary Bolt and this L.C. Smith .410 is only available with 26" Barrels.

Look around and you can pick one up a modern L.C. Smith double gun, for about $1,800 - $2,200, right in your price range.

Ryman Gun Dog
L.C. Smith Man

My L.C. Smith 28 Gauge, almost identical to the L.C. Smith .410.