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It ain't an L. C. Smith, Dave, it's a Zabala, for the umpteenth time. And it's too light and whippy with 26" barre;s for clays and dove. JR
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John, au contraire.
My Tristar Zabala Brittany in 410 really works well for clays and doves and I would bet a wonderful grouse gun. See picture above, page 2.
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JR, It says L.C. Smith on the gun, Marlin Contracted Zabala in Spain to make/supply a modern L.C. Smith double gun, not a reproduction. Marlin had the rights/ownership to L.C. Smith, and now Remington has purchased Marlin giving them ownership of L.C. Smith.
It is legally an L.C. Smith Zabala made gun for Marlin. I put the gun in my L.C. Smith Collection with all the Originals, granted the gun is not a Side lock with the Brown Rotary Bolt, it's a Box lock with side plates, and is a far cry from the original Hunter Arms L.C. Smith Engineering.
Further the 26" Barrels are not whippy and I shoot Doves, Woodcock & Grouse just fine with mine. The .410 is almost exactly the same gun.
skeettx,
Mike the Grouse in the prior picture with the L.C. Smith 28, was shot over Penny's point with that exact gun, the .410 comes on the same frame. I have had absolutely no problem hunting with mine what so ever.
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I have the exact model of Guerini John Roberts recommended in 28 gauge. It's probably the gun I shoot best and I've shot it a bunch without so much as a hiccup. Guerini's warranty is first class, as is their service. Go for it.
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Is that 7lb 7oz the correct weight for this gun. Yes I would have to say "Some Weight". The only reason I can envision for owning a .410 is "Lack of Weight". I have a 16 gauge Halifax (Darne) that weighs 5lb 14oz. I have sent a few 20's down the road because they weighed in at 7lb. At that weight no reason for it to be anything but a 12. I have a couple of 16's, one Lefever & one Baker which weigh in a 6 3/4lbs each. That is absolute tops for a 16 in my opinion.
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I still have the Model 42. It's a pre - war with 26" barrels, full choke. I have been looking at a B Rizzini round action in a 28 / 410 combo. Yes and also the new SKB in the 410. The new SKB's come with a single trigger and not sure how reliable it would be,
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Mike, the SKB and the Dickinson are both made by AKUS in Turkey. I've not shot an AKUS SKB S x S, nor even seen one, but can vouch for the quality of the Dickinson. Mine has very good double triggers and ejectors, and I have never had one iota of buyer's regret. Dickinsons are sold through Cabela's and Pacific Sporting Arms, and maybe some smaller shops, too. They carry a lifetime warranty to the original owner, and are serviced by Briley's.
Just wanted to make sure you knew that. Good luck, man.
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JR, It says L.C. Smith on the gun, Marlin Contracted Zabala in Spain to make/supply a modern L.C. Smith double gun, not a reproduction. Saying it on the side "don't make it so". CSMC is building a redesigned RBL for Savage and putting Fox on the side of it. That don't make it so. You know exactly what John meant. SRH
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