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He just doesn't have spurs. It's rare but happens. If they were broken off there would be a dent so to speak. No jake! I've had a great turkey season and thank you all for your postings. It is really rewarding to see others enjoying something that you love as well (this entire site). Thank you especially to the people who took time to share a hunt with me and who were thoughtful enough to share a call. I'm blessed beyond my means. Thank you guys!

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Brent, I've killed turkeys similar to that one before, and have seen several others posted on turkey forums. I think it's just a genetic difference that keeps some gobblers from ever growing spurs.

The best method that I have found for determining if a bird is a 2 year old or an older bird is to examine the end of the beard. A 2 year gobbler will have a lot of amber tips, while an older bird will have nearly all black tips. This is pretty easy to see on a gobbler in the Southeast, but I'm not sure how well it works in areas that have lots of snow and ice.

Here's a pic I made to try to show this. If you number them from left to right, birds number 1 and 3 are obviously 2 yr old turkeys, while 2 and 4 would have to be at least 3 years old. Their spurs would support these estimates as well.


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I've taken several spur-less gobblers over the years with long beards that were obviously 3, 4, or even 5 year old birds. They all tended to gobble on the limb, then hush as they cautiously came in because they had no weapons to engage the possible presence of a dominant bird. As my now long-dead mentor used to say about such, "son, he didn't want another spur rammed up his ass."
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I am not so sure silence coming in is always about fear of having a spur shoved where the sun doesn't shine as it is concern about having another gun barrel shoved there. An old bird is a survivor of many such attempts on the public land I hunt. It's not unusual to find old shot in old birds that made one last mistake

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Certainly that too, Gil.
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Well the old bird got another day older today. He beat me twice and laughed and danced while he did so. If he can pull it off tomorrow he's home free.


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Originally Posted By: coosa

They were all shot with the tight barrel and TSS#9, at ranges from 27 to 36 yards. It was said in this forum before the season that I was a moron for using these shells. I'm still trying to understand what is wrong with them.


Maybe just maybe when you bite down on one you'll get the picture....

Good thing is if you miss biting down on a fAiry dust sized Tss #9 it is so small it'll just pass right through your digestive track and come right out with the rest of your bull chit.

Are turkeys any deader than if they were shot with a copper plated lead #4 ?

Only in your deNse brAin.

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Back in February, jOe called coosa a moron because he shot #9 TSS at turkeys. Coosa repeatedly asked jOe was he, coosa, a moron "because the shot was ineffective or too effective? The answer can't be both." Cox dodged the question, wouldn't answer, and has now moved onto dental reasons. And while on the subject of dental, coosa put his "money where his mouth was" and posted photos in this thread of 13 turkeys, 2018 tagged-out limits in Ga., AL, KS and OK all killed with a $500 5.5 lb. SXS 20 gauge shooting #10 and #9 TSS. Unlike the nattering nabob of negativity, he exercised his personal choice, and didn't feel the need to tote a $1500 plastic stocked Benelli automatic 12 ga. weighing 7.25 lbs., more or less, shooting #4 copper clads. Yes, dead is dead, regardless if killed by #4 lead or TSS 9. No argument there. No one is critical of Mr. Cox shooting lead 4s. Hell, he can shoot an 8 gauge with lead where legal. Who cares? And unless he is paying future dental bills of coosa, it shouldn't be his worry what coosa and others lawfully and ethically shoot. In reality, jOe could give a rat's ass about what coosa shoots. His comments are grounded upon jOe being jOe. And for those who have been around this forum for the past decade, no explanation is necessary regarding the sentiment expressed in the last sentence. Maybe he should put his "mouth where his money is", in a wallet and into his back pocket.

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Nicely done Gil.

There’s enough boorish behaviour on this forum, including by me sometimes. We don’t need it in this thread, which is for celebration.


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