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Stan and James, I don't get animosity between people because of where they live, how they vote or religious associations. (If I don't like the way they do business I don't do business with them.)

My friends on this forum are mostly conservatives because this is mostly a conservative board. My hunting and fishing friends here are almost exclusively conservatives. I respect American friends as much as my Canadian.

Character comes first. Take James, an unreconstructed Tory who batters here with me, and only a travel glitch prevented us from getting together last year.
American friends know the door is always open to them here.

Intolerance, hate of another's opinions, is discouraging. Who wants to live in a community, state or country where everyone thinks the same?

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Who wants to live in a community, state or country where everyone thinks the same?

Hate, animosity? Just terble, King.

Same as what? Are we thinking we're all just socialist, but don't know it? cback touched on it. What's a national border or stuck on the wrong side of the tracks, when when a polar opposite ideological adversary might be sitting in the next seat or pecking out a tolerant euphemism the next minute? Another season is on us and again I wonder, where's that complimentary waterfowl license? Big sigh.

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Originally Posted By: craigd

...where’s that complimentary waterfowl license? Big sigh.


You’re confusing Scotland and New Scotland. Boy, craigd, you want it all. He’ll let you camp for free in his yard. I’m just wondering if he’ll let me run an extension cord out to my pup tent so I can watch Hockey Night in Canada.


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Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Who wants to live in a community, state or country where everyone thinks the same?

Hate, animosity? Just terble, King.

Same as what? Are we thinking we're all just socialist, but don't know it? cback touched on it. What's a national border or stuck on the wrong side of the tracks, when when a polar opposite ideological adversary might be sitting in the next seat or pecking out a tolerant euphemism the next minute? Another season is on us and again I wonder, where's that complimentary waterfowl license? Big sigh.


Craig, I'm not sure what I touched on... laugh....but I don't hate people for what they think. To hate someone, and there are very few of them....I try not to have much hate in my life...brings me down more than it does anything else....they have to actually do things. Not think them.

To me that's kinda like free speech. People should be able to say what they want, no matter how vile I may find it. It's when it swings into actions that it's a problem.

Having been raised Anglican (Episcopalian to you guys) I am now an atheist. And from where I sit, there are a lot of people on this board who profess to be Christian who do a piss poor job of being Christian, if their comments here are any indication. (Stan, I am specifically excluding you from that generalization)

Most of us have full lives, with competing interests of family, job, accident of birth etc that have influenced where we live. To suggest it's a conscious and specific choice that should have been made only for the sake of our gun and hunting rights and privileges is to deny the reality of most of our lives. It has nothing to do with being socialist.

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It's kind of crazy, isn't it? We're all of one blood with endless strains of believing in any one social, political and economic community. I get a kick out of liberals rated below atheists in the US. I don't think people can be easily labelled. Why the appeal of Sanders in old Vermont and across the country? Why the Washington scene for a man who called it as he saw the public interest---and called him a maverick? There's a lot more goodness than it seems. Call it what you want.

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CB, Your last post is a breath of fresh air - clear,brief, and to the point. I second everything you said there.

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Originally Posted By: canvasback
Originally Posted By: craigd
....a polar opposite ideological adversary....

....Most of us have full lives, with competing interests of family, job, accident of birth etc that have influenced where we live. To suggest it's a conscious and specific choice that should have been made only for the sake of our gun and hunting rights and privileges is to deny the reality of most of our lives. It has nothing to do with being socialist.

I just hate it when you make sense. Well, either that, or it's a package deal? Now there you go, I just bummed myself out a little. Maybe, King could cheer me up a bit if he makes sure his camp grounds has wifi and pizza delivery out at the blind? cback, I'm gonna ask King to type really nice things about you so that you feel like you want to bring the beer. After the shooting's done, okay?

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
I get a kick out of liberals rated below atheists in the US. .


Fans of Les Kwee-beckers are rated below both. At least in Detroit.


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Craig, always after the shooting! laugh

And no problem....I'm happy to bring the beer. It'll be Canadian (I don't mean the brand).


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After following this tread for a while I will put my 2 cents worth in. I am 84 and havelived here for most of my life, I seen this state change from a conservative state to the monster it is now. It really all started in the 60s when the courts decided that our 2 house legislature should be based on population; originally the assembly was population based and the senate was 1 senator from each county, this worked as a counter balance to keep things equal. Then it seems like every one was moving here and living mainly in the large cities, so we became more liberal. When the liberal politicians had control they gerrymandered the legislature districts to maintain their control. Then came the influx of legal and illegal people and more liberalization. Now it seems that anytime we have a problem a new law is passed to solve it (usually it just makes it worse) as a result it becomes more difficult to do business in this state and many are beginning to move to other states. Agriculture is also having its problems, An appointed water board is trying to take 40% of the water used for irrigation in the San Joaquin Valley and send it to the ocean, supposedly to help the salmon population. It dose'nt matter that this valley is one of the most productive agricultural areas in the world. Many think that it is really to replace the northern water that governor moombeam wants to send to Los Angeles. The lesson is don't think this cannot happen to you, a good example is Arizona, all you need to do is look at the Pheonix area to realize that it is beginning to happen there, soon their population will be a majority if it is not already and the influx of people that want something for nothing will drive politics. There is a proposal to divide California into 3 states but that will never happen, the central and northern part of the state has most of the food and water, the southern and San Francisco areas have mostly people and very little water or food. I am sure many would like to leave but are like me, trapped with what I have worked all my live for and in reality no place to go. What really bothers me most is what this country will be like in 50 or 100 years. It's sad that the great experiment will have failed but I am glad I won't be here when it does.

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