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I am a native Californian. When I was growing up there the population of the entire state was about 8 million people. There are now about 40 million. That's a 500% increase and you can be sure that most of them came from the states where YOU live. WHY?


Why???...

....If it comes to our states next, it will be because we allowed ourselves to be fooled....

Sure folks moved to Cal. for opportunity. I myself have an aunt that moved there in the seventies. Her husband is long gone and my cousins are out of the house. Her very modest quiet neighborhood now looks like Beirut.

Among many other highlights, that formerly great state is the number one importer of illegal aliens, and the number one exporter of progressivism to the western US. Here's hoping Arizona can withstand the attack. Where's RM Bill, he knows how to demonize an R, while reluctantly admitting his neck of the woods have become the summer playgrounds of bored and rich kaliforn'ans. Heck, for defense of ideology, he'll tip toe around criticism of kali policy.

It's not lost on me that there are many good folks out there, but that state generates policy, congr. reps. and electoral votes that extend far beyond simply leaving that state line in the rear view mirror.

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Craig, I don't know where you live but let's take Keith's home state as an example.

Pittsburgh and Philly are pretty blue. And have been for a while. Does that make all Pennsylvanians Libtards? Is Keith a Libtard?

If those two urban areas dominated the state population the way the Bay area and LA do California, then I'm pretty sure there would be a host of idiotic leftist laws in Pennsylvania.

The problem isn't Californians. It's the urban areas of the coast.


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And those Canadians pouring in those areas at 33,000 a year, attracted by opportunities in tech and comedy industries.

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Originally Posted By: Chukarman

And it's coming to your state next.

Me? I'm in southern Arizona as I type this. I'm done with California - paradise lost.


Should have moved a couple of states further. Unless you dont plan on moving soon. Theres always Mexico I guess.

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Originally Posted By: canvasback


Pittsburgh and Philly are pretty blue. And have been for a while. Does that make all Pennsylvanians Libtards? Is Keith a Libtard?



Bite your tongue! What did I ever do to deserve this!!! sick

Seriously, and in craigd's defense, he did say that there are many good people in California. We all realize that. I spent several months working in California when I was in college, and have a number of relatives who live there.

But I was able to see, even as a young man with a college educated ideology, that California was being taken over by snowflakes. And I therefore never had ANY desire to live there.

Despite the fact that most of California's Liberal problem is centered in the L.A. and San Francisco urban centers, one of my relatives told me a couple weeks ago that she and her husband are retiring early and getting out of Dodge before things get any worse. They are moving to Utah. She told me that their lovely city has been over-run with homeless and illegals who have been driven away from the San Fran area. Also, an influx of middle class working people have fled those areas because people making less than $250,000 to $300,000 per year simply cannot afford the astronomical housing and rental costs. Those costs are driven by wealthy Liberal techies who... guess what... aren't willing to share to help their homeless bretheren. That has increased demand and real estate prices in her area to the point that landlords are evicting tenants to take advantage of skyrocketing property prices, and creating a new class of homeless. She never dreamed that thousands of people would be living in tents and cardboard shelters in parks and under bridges in her town, and frankly, neither did I. Budget deficits in her town have prompted lawsuits by public works employees because even employee restroom facilities have been closed in spite of large tax increases. Yet the city still wishes to extend even more taxpayer funded benefits to illegal aliens and drug abusers.

Welcome to Libtardville. Coming soon to your area... unless you are intelligent enough to learn from the failures of Liberalism and Socialism provided by places like Venezuela and California.

I'd be glad that people like King Brown lived long enough to see their Liberal left Utopian vision crash and burn, but he is too entrenched to acknowledge the reality of veterans and working class people living in boxes and defecating in parks, and he's still imagining some quaint Seafood Restaurant by the Bay from 40-50 years ago. And people like he and rocky mtn bill are too busy hoping they can find some loophole to impeach Trump and get back in power to finish the job... a job which includes destruction of our 2nd Amendment.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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California was going broke when Arnold was in charge. That the enormous wealth generated by the tech industry which leads to ordinary people being priced out of a decent living is somehow the fault of Democrats would be funny if it weren't so stupid. The basis of this crisis is that the economy is booming along, but ordinary people derive no benefit. Wages have been stagnant for decades. All the gains accrue to those already wealthy. Republicans won't touch this issue for fear of offending their donor-handlers. Democrats may not have all the answers, but they acknowlege the problem. It won't ever be solved without a bipartisan effort.


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Hahaha, that's really hilarious. Now the Libtard rocky mtn bill is attempting to convince us that California is really a secret Red State, controlled by greedy wealthy Republicans.

Even the Fake News boys at CNN and MSLSD wouldn't be so brash as to try to get away with bullshit like that. But Billy is terribly entrenched in defending his precious anti-gun Liberal left Democrats... even the incredibly wealthy ones who spent over 1.2 billion dollars attempting to elect Hillary Clinton (breaking the record previously held by Obama). It's good that they have millions of brainless dupes like Billy to make excuses for them.

Billy is once again whining about stagnant wages, but frequently bashes Trump, who is attempting to fix the rampant influx of illegals and the insane trade deals that cause stagnant wages. Engaging in so-called bipartisan efforts with the very people who are stabbing you in the back and undermining the Constitution by attempting to stifle free speech and infringe upon the rights of law abiding gun owners is simply stupid. Voting for anti-gunners is about as intelligent as hiring a convicted pedophile to babysit your kids, unless your goal is to ban guns. But that's what rocky mtn bill and King think we should do. That's the kind of stand-up guys we deal with here.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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There's plenty of evidence that employers have conspired to keep wages down. Look it up for yourself.And, the excuse for cutting taxes for the super-rich was that they'd use that money to pay workers more. Now there's a joke. Corporations used their windfalls to buy back their own stock. The corporate world, with some rare exceptions, has no sense of obligation to anyone but themselves. The Koch brothers are out to own and run the world. Their propaganda industry has brought them lots of support from the very people they're out to starve. C'est la vie.


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Those who enjoy and hope to perpetuate hunting, have to be in favor of controlling climate change which is the looming threat to all life on this planet, including ourselves. Habitat is a base line requirement for all life forms. To me, the choice is clear. One party says party on. The other party says we need to change our ways. I'm planning to continue to own firearms, but I also want to go living in a world where the game I enjoy hunting can thrive. We can't have it both ways. Either we continue as we always have and take the consequences, or we do whatever is required to keep the planet habitable.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Those who enjoy and hope to perpetuate hunting, have to be in favor of controlling climate change which is the looming threat to all life on this planet, including ourselves. Habitat is a base line requirement for all life forms. To me, the choice is clear. One party says party on. The other party says we need to change our ways. I'm planning to continue to own firearms, but I also want to go living in a world where the game I enjoy hunting can thrive. We can't have it both ways. Either we continue as we always have and take the consequences, or we do whatever is required to keep the planet habitable.


Well, someone sure has drunk the Kool-Aid.


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