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Anybody make firing pins for a K-20 that don't start piercing everything except a W209 after 15K rounds?
This is unacceptable firing pin life.
How hard can it be to make a stupid firing pin?
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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Shotgunjones, It was a lack of certain firing pin that caused me to trade for my first small lathe, which expanded my hobby and increased my enjoyment. Now would be a good time for you to take the step, you won't regret it. A lathe(and mill)is a requirement of life, anyway. Mike
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Yes, good advice.
The other problem is that apparently Krieghoff builds a gun by laying two firing pins on the bench and assembling the gun around them.
Replacement is a job for a guy with the tools and the knowledge, both of which I lack at the present.
What I'd like is to have a good set of pins installed that I can forget about forever.
I do have a set from the first overhaul that could be used as a pattern. Perhaps there's somebody out there who could fabricate a pair for me. Appropriate steel and good heat treat would be a plus.
I do know where a 'factory trained' Krieghoff mechanic is so I could have the parts installed. I just have drive all day to get to his place.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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A gunsmith friend says that there are some very hard primers out there that are doing harm to K-80 fireing pins?? MAYBE Rio??? He worked at Ottsville as a gunsmith for Kreighoff so I believe he knows what he is doing.
bill
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That's the party line story from Krieghoff.
They blame Gun Club primers, at least before the supposed change by Remington to STS primers in the Gun Club product. I did lose a firing pin in an 1100 to the old Gun Club primers.
My gun has had 90% Winchester primers run through it. The rest were whatever they load in the Herter's brand and a few flats of Federal. it's never seen a Rio since the last firing pin change.
I bought a couple flats of current production Gun Clubs and after two boxes it started piercing every one.
The tips of the pins under a magnifier look like the crater Copernicus, complete with the center mountain.
So, for now I'm shooting Winchester primed reloads.
Rather irritating at this price point. I have Beretta's and Brownings with many multiples of the cycles on the Krieghoff and they all have their original firing pins.
My experience is not unique. I know of 2 others with the same history.
There would seem to be a market ready for good firing pins for these, perhaps Titanium?
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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S7 would be a great steel to use. Ive got a CNC lathe...
A.M. Little Bespoke Gunmakers LLC. Mineola, TX Michael08TDK@yahoo.com 682-554-0044
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A quick fix would be to trade in the Krieghoff. This type of failure would not acceptable to me at Krieghoff prices. As a professor of mechanical engineering, with more specific information, pictures, etc., I would be tempted to use it as an example of poor design in my design courses.
Last edited by vangulil; 09/10/18 12:43 PM.
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Mr. Little,
If you're seriously interested in the project, I'll send you these pins as a pattern and buy your first set.
These are for a K-20.
K-80's have the same exact problem, and I do not know if they use the same firing pins.
All the pins and springs are routinely changed during 'annual service' that many K shooters buy on a frequent basis if not actually annually. The biggest cost is shipping.
Krieghoff does treat their shooters well, I'm not complaining about that but I would like to have a set of pins that last.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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I like the K-20, it's not going anywhere.
It's everything the K-80 isn't.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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Everybody knows German Guns are perfect, any problem must be Ammunition. Thats what Anschutz factory service told me when my brand new 1712 . 22 failed to extract and knocked me out of a big match.
Boats
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