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Since you're fond of throwing around the word, is it hypocritical to sell some folks here that the recipients of your buddies votes are pro 2nd., let alone protect the Constitution?
Instead of giving job resumes, retirement status and hunting prowess, why not 'discuss' the results of the fruits of their vote?
Craig, the problem comes in pigeonholing people by their votes. I don't hunt doves, but a lot of Iowans do now--and it took us a long time to get a season. One of my teammates on the Governor's Pheasant Hunt several years back had been leading that effort for a long time. He was a Democrat. He also voted in favor of changing the state's concealed carry law from "may issue" to "shall issue"--which means that county sheriffs can no longer reject an application just because they think the applicant doesn't need CC. Would I have voted for him if I'd lived in his district? You bet! We come from a lot of different places. I don't pretend to know the local situation in every state. Much less in every Congressional district. Much less in every state legislative district. So I would suggest to you that it's really difficult to know "the fruits of their vote" . . . and one whole heckuva lot easier to say "Well, if someone voted for a guy with a D after his name, he must not be in favor of protecting the Constitution. And in particular not the 2nd Amendment." And by the way, Craig . . . Iowa's precinct caucuses give those who attend the opportunity to suggest planks for the party's state platform. At my Republican caucus several years ago, I stood up and offered the motion to support a change from "may issue" to "shall issue" in Iowa. That motion passed, unanimously. And after the next session of the state legislature, that change was made. So . . . just like taking the oath to protect the Constitution and signing on the dotted line to serve my country, I'm a guy who believes in action. Not just words. And especially not just words on a BB where we're mostly preaching to the choir. What we say here won't protect the Constitution and won't make for more 2A friendly gun laws. So I'm proud to say I've walked the walk, not just talked the talk . . . to a bunch of other gun people.
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Since you're fond of throwing around the word, is it hypocritical to sell some folks here that the recipients of your buddies votes are pro 2nd., let alone protect the Constitution?
Instead of giving job resumes, retirement status and hunting prowess, why not 'discuss' the results of the fruits of their vote?
Craig, the problem comes in pigeonholing people by their votes. I don't hunt doves, but a lot of Iowans do now--and it took us a long time to get a season. One of my teammates on the Governor's Pheasant Hunt several years back had been leading that effort for a long time. He was a Democrat. He also voted in favor of changing the state's concealed carry law from "may issue" to "shall issue"--which means that county sheriffs can no longer reject an application just because they think the applicant doesn't need CC. Would I have voted for him if I'd lived in his district? You bet! We come from a lot of different places. I don't pretend to know the local situation in every state. Much less in every Congressional district. Much less in every state legislative district. So I would suggest to you that it's really difficult to know "the fruits of their vote" . . . and one whole heckuva lot easier to say "Well, if someone voted for a guy with a D after his name, he must not be in favor of protecting the Constitution. And in particular not the 2nd Amendment." And by the way, Craig . . . Iowa's precinct caucuses give those who attend the opportunity to suggest planks for the party's state platform. At my Republican caucus several years ago, I stood up and offered the motion to support a change from "may issue" to "shall issue" in Iowa. That motion passed, unanimously. And after the next session of the state legislature, that change was made. So . . . just like taking the oath to protect the Constitution and signing on the dotted line to serve my country, I'm a guy who believes in action. Not just words. And especially not just words on a BB where we're mostly preaching to the choir. What we say here won't protect the Constitution and won't make for more 2A friendly gun laws. So I'm proud to say I've walked the walk, not just talked the talk . . . to a bunch of other gun people. Well done Larry and well said. While I don't live in the US, I think this is the same in both countries....most of us are not single issue voters. While I happen to think gun rights are the canary in the coal mine for personal freedoms and rights, they are not the only thing I think about when I go to the polls. I also happen to believe in free speech. I don't mean theoretically, I mean in practice. As such, I'm not interested in behaving in a way that shuts down discussion or debate. In practice, that's hard, especially in person, because I have to battle my own instincts and allow others "air" time. However, I remain convinced that the best way to counter stupid ideas is to air them thoroughly and in public.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Since you're fond of throwing around the word, is it hypocritical to sell some folks here that the recipients of your buddies votes are pro 2nd., let alone protect the Constitution?
Instead of giving job resumes, retirement status and hunting prowess, why not 'discuss' the results of the fruits of their vote?
Craig, the problem comes in pigeonholing people by their votes.... ....What we say here won't protect the Constitution and won't make for more 2A friendly gun laws. So I'm proud to say I've walked the walk, not just talked the talk . . . to a bunch of other gun people. I'd agree with cback, well said Larry. Do you mind if I constructively expand on your thoughts? Personally, I have never pretended to have gotten some ideal policy or results from any candidate that I've ever voted for, but it's never been lost on me that I'm not a one issue or emotional voter. We can all come up with anecdotal examples, but the truth is, as I know it, that Democrats support party leadership, lockstep. Yes, I know there is an occasional opposing vote, but only after a Senator or Representative is released by leadership to position themselves for reelection. I can't for a moment make any claim to understand local and state politics, but I do have a strong suspicion of where future national policy makers come from. I know there's always bickering, but generally pc gets the word out, then don't we see true colors when a little resistance shows up?
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Maybe DrBob is really just upset that site traffic is way down on his new Lefever forum website. Now the truth comes out....Dr.bOb you should be ashamed of yourself. If I was a moderator I'd have no problem'O throwing you off this site.
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The extraneous crap that goes on here devalues the product to the point that I'm not paying for it. Simple capitalism at work. I also despise someone that advertises one thing and the actually sells another. Dave is doing exactly that.
Not a nickel from me.
I vote to ban BrentD
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Forums generally use long-time stable members for moderators. It's all volunteer work. Often it's a group of members that moderate, which makes it a voting type of disciplinary action system. I'm all for such a system here. The time for moderation is overdue IMO.
Only moderation that is overdue is removal of a few muslim loving communistic liberal people...that truth be known are anti-gun.
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DrBob,
I dont know you but Im sure youre passionate about double guns like most of us.
I will say, saying youre leaving the forum or telling us that you no longer support the forum, youre only trying to draw attention to yourself. Telling everyone just starts a whole new heated debate and further name calling.
The ignore option, if you actually need this option, you dont have thick enough skin to actually not post further degrading remarks, maybe you oughta just stay away till you grow thicker skin.
I have a suggestion for Mr Ed, King Brown, and any other posters who dont appreciate the 2nd Ammendment that our wise forefathers put in our great Constitution, start another forum site for people who share your liberal views.
Every blames Keith, I do not know Keith personally, but I do know hes posted some knowledgeable information, way more than you Mr Ed! In my opinion, youre only here to stir up trouble, please prove me wrong?
Stan Amen....
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The degradation of Drew's post about picture posting into a political free for all is the last straw for me. You can check out the donor's lists and see that I have contributed every year for at least 10 years. No More.
Dave is making a profit on this forum. At least he could moderate to the extent that informative posts aren't constantly turned into political BS by the same half dozen malcontents.
If you are a regular donor please join with me in a boycott until he addresses the issue. Excuse me buddy bOb...anyone that would start a thread like this should be shown the door.
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Stan, I couldn't disagree with you more. Furthermore, your approach hasn't and isn't working.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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Stan, I couldn't disagree with you more. Furthermore, your approach hasn't and isn't working. Stan could care less if your highness disagrees with him. Is your example of it working the old shootingsportman bbs??? Haha. That place is a ghost town. It was really good back in the day...before the nutty moderators got ahold of it. How about upland journal? A bunch of back patting, poacher defending (roysetters debacle), goof balls. Like I said earlier....each and every one of yous who publicly states (to get pats on the back and fake support) that theyre leaving and publicly states that they no longer support the board financially and are actively encouraging others to do so all the while continuously using the board for their benefit (learning things, asking questions, buying items, pimping their books, etc, should be banned for life.
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