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Whenever I trade I always aim to make it two for one. Three would be better...Geo

I have a Hatsan Escort.
I believe they are called differing names in different countries, maybe named by importers.
My gun is an over under, 28" tubes 5 chokes, 3" chambers, chrome bores, black chrome outer barrel finish.
It is a boxlock with single selective trigger, extractors, nickel plated action & synthetic stock. An all weather gun.
The stock is adjustable for LOP & comb height.
Modeled off a Browning action it appears to have that reliability.

I bought it for a motorbike gun, that is it rides in a holder on the front of my Kwaker stalking bike. I wanted a good functional cheap gun that I did not have to respect much & if it got damaged in a spill then was no real loss. The Hatsan now has earned respect from me as a good functioning, hard wearing, low maintenance little gun that will digest any American load 3"and under that I care to feed it. Fitted with cyl & cyl chokes & using slugs it is a good wild hog rig.

O.M

Red, I hope yours serves you well. How heavy is the trigger? Three of us got the .410s at the same time, and we all did trigger work to lighten them. I did mine and a friend's, and helped the other friend with his. I really don't expect them to ever lighten them up at the factory. The amazing thing is that the internals are polished, and none of the triggers on our three have ever doubled or failed to fire.

Kinda embarrassing that the British had such trouble ever making a good single trigger, and you can buy one on a $499 piece that works perfect.

SRH

Stan, in defense of the Brits and single triggers....most of that reputation was earned years after Gunsmith�s that didn�t understand how they worked messed with them...and another thing....most of those single triggers were designed at a time when there wasn�t a truly reliable single trigger in mass use and everyone was looking for and trying new designs. Years of trial and error. And they started from basically no known model to work from. Pretty convenient today for a relatively new gun maker to pick over the myriad of proven designs and stick one in their gun on the cheap. All the ground work has already been done.
And there�s plenty of Turk tomato stakes running around out there with terrible non working single triggers. Lots of Spanish ones too. We�ve all seen plenty here and there, enough of them to know they all aren�t built the same...like say Italian guns. Even then, you occasionally hear of a goofed up single trigger, A&S is known to have issues with st�s at times for example.

I know you're right, Dustin. It was mostly a tongue-in-cheek cheap shot. I have no idea who "invented" the design of the Yildiz S x S single trigger, but it is simplicity exemplified. I would not be surprised to know it was a copy of an earlier design.

True that, about the Turk tomato stakes. I have yet to see a Turk O/U that had a good single trigger. I have no idea if design is the same as in the Yildiz S x Ss, but it's been 100% consistent that the Turk O/Us I've seen all had single trigger problems.

Best, SRH

We get a lot of Turkish guns coming into the U.K. One to look for if they get over to you are KOFS https://www.kofs.com.tr/en I recently handled one of theirs in .410 O/U multi choke. Handled beautifully. Hard to see how they make them at the price they do.

I use one of the Hatsan Semi Autos as my 'take-to-work' guns for shooting cormorants along the river. Hard to fault and dirt cheap. Lagopus�..

lagopus,

Those KOFS guns look suspiciously like the Yildiz to me. The shape of the hinge pin ends, the shaping where the rear of the action mates with the stock head.............. all look the same on both makes. Betcha they come out of the same factory.

SRH

Not according to what I understand Stan. I have handled both makes. Out of the two I thought the Kofs handled better feeling lighter and slimmer. Turkey seem to have the British market well targeted with cut price guns. I had a quick look at other Turkish guns coming over here. There is AKKAR who among other things make a triple barrel model that is most unusual; ATA who just seem to make a 12 bore aimed at the clay shooting market; HUGLU with a fairly wide range of products; and REVO with a wide range also in side by side, over under and semi autos. None are particularly expensive and offer good value. Labour must be cheap over there. Worth a look if they start to find their way your side. Here you are, check out the Akkar triple barrel: https://akkar.com.tr/mammut-triple-barrel-shotgun-2-476 Lagopus�..

Yeah, I thought that triple was gonna be a dream come true, but alas.
Single trigger & no barrel selector. What ?

Lot of second hand ones for sale here in Aus.
I don't know but is it impulse buy the gimmick & the usefulness does not work out.

I reckon they should do it in a drilling. 12 & 12 SxS on one select front trigger & top barrel 45-70 et al on a rear trigger.
Ejector.

O.

A friend of mine loves his three barreled gun. Mostly a goose hunter and it�s deadly according to him. And says it has been perfectly reliable. He often shoots it at skeet, sometimes not raising it from the hip and is perfectly capable of running the birds in that position. Sort of humiliating for a duffer like me.