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“Decline of the Side-by-Side”
This is by no means breaking news. I’m 47 and the SxS’s where gone (as the norm) before I was born. Only a few diehard gun enthusiast use them in the area...
What disappoints me the most is that most people my age and younger have no pride in the guns that they shoot. It’s a tool only.
The recurring elements section is most relevant Would you rather hunt with an interesting fellow that thinks guns are just tools or a tool that thinks his gun is interesting? I would rather hunt with an interesting fellow that likes his gun. Different strokes for different folks. Hunting for me 1/3 about hunting, 1/3 about spending time with friends and 1/3 about using one of my guns. If I had to hunt with someone else's gun it just wouldn't appeal to me. I hunt a couple times a year with my late Fathers guns, a Beretta O/U, the same gun he started me hunting with, and the A5 12 he bought in 1952, when he made Sargent in the USMC. I also have a 20 gauge double that a late friend made sure I ended up with. The passing of these two great men left a large empty spot in my world. I enjoy hunting with their guns. Best, Ted
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I hunt a couple times a year with my late Fathers guns, a Beretta O/U, the same gun he started me hunting with, and the A5 12 he bought in 1952, when he made Sargent in the USMC. I also have a 20 gauge double that a late friend made sure I ended up with. The passing of these two great men left a large empty spot in my world.
I enjoy hunting with their guns.
Best,
Ted Yes, I can relate to that. Its not about the money, its about hunting with a gun your proud of. Most of the guns made today are so cheesy its hard to be proud of them. A cheep gun from 80 years ago had more craftmanship put into it than the $1000 plastic, bead blasted guns of today.
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Stan is exactly right that the O/U is the ruler of the day in shooting games. I have O/U guns and semi autos and the vast majority of them just sit and gather dust. I shoot the guns I shoot because I want to shoot them not because of any other reason. I can afford any gun that I want. I have learned it is the shooter, not the ammo, or the gun which causes all my misses. I like archaic guns for lack of a better term.
I killed several ducks this year with a 190 year old percussion smallbore double. I shot multiple limits of Dove with a Winchester 42, a Crescent .410, a Ruger 28, a Ithaca 37 in 28 and a collection of other pump guns and side by sides. Everything could have been killed with a Benelli and a couple flats of store bought ammo. But where in the heck would there be any fun in that? I shoot very few clay targets these days but when I do I use a pump or side by side. Most of my archaic guns are used in the field. So the Benellis, 1100, 11-87, K80's, 3200's of my world sit in the gun room and the others get a chance to go hunting.
I have more guns, in my gun room, than I will ever get a chance to take hunting and I still am buying more. I just bought a Union Firearms 20 gauge pump gun and have finished getting it ready for use. If I am alive this September, it will get used on Dove. And I bet that I will be the first person to take a limit of Dove with that gun.
My three sons are going to come home for a Dove shoot in September and we are all going to be using Winchester 42's to shoot Dove. I'll have one for each of them to borrow and shoot. I want them to understand it is not the bag that counts but the memories that do. And what they don't know is that I am going to give each of them the 42 they will be using that day, to take home.
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I didn't have a chance to watch the video, but the 'kid' probably has his head in the sand. There's a better than fair chance that all guns are going the way of the dinosaur in the UK. Who really cares if folks have different tastes in guns, as long as it's in the good ole US of A.
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The younger guy on youtube is very involved in the English gun trade and knows his stuff on guns...as his other videos will attest.
John Browning saw it back in the 1920s when he started work on his Superposed...I'm sure Browning could have designed a SxS with much less effort.
The stack barrel reins supreme for a reason.
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Stan,
Thank you for your comments.
This is after all a forum.
Each to his own.
I doubt there is any medical or scientific reason for one type to be better than the other .
So we can all just shoot what we prefer .
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Another strange comment ....... They also seem a bit easier to swing laterally when hunting in emergent vegetation. SRH
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Stan,
Thank you for your comments.
This is after all a forum.
Each to his own.
I doubt there is any medical or scientific reason for one type to be better than the other .
So we can all just shoot what we prefer . I'm sure we agree that we are blessed to be able to make such choices, and also be able to express our opinions. Freedom is a good thing. SRH
May God bless America and those who defend her.
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I think a SxS may point better for a very quick shot in a heavily wooded and dense background, as compared to a scattergun with a single sighting plane?? I have no scientific evidence to base this statement, only my own experience and opinion.
Socialism is almost the worst.
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That is a possibility, buzz. I can discern no difference in how quickly I can "settle the bead" on a flushing quail, or on a low house 7 bird, with a S x S or an O/U. There may be a situation or two where the S x S shines brighter than the O/U. The late great pigeon shooter, Billy Perdue, favored S x Ss for flyers. I read an interview in which he stated that the reason he believed S x Ss were superior in flyers is that it is mostly a game of establishing lead on a rising bird. He believed the wider "appearance" of the barrels lent itself to establishing that vertical lead faster, and speed is so important in trap pigeon shooting.
SRH
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