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#539853 - 03/04/19 08:25 PM E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun
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This gun is being advertised by Steve Barnett.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101169022

Nitro proofed, 30" Damascus bels, 2 1/2" chambers. 32 thou minimums walls, double trigger, extractor, 6 lbs 12 oz. Those devices behind the hammers look like old muzzle loader cap flash protectors? Any idea what they are? There is no SN...I've asked but have received no response...does Steve usually respond to queries?. As far as I know I've never seen this particular gun before.









Edited by Argo44 (03/04/19 08:33 PM)
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#539855 - 03/04/19 08:58 PM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: Argo44]
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Originally Posted By: Argo44
Those devices behind the hammers look like old muzzle loader cap flash protectors? Any idea what they are?


The fancy shape in front of the hammers and behind the firing pins are typically called "percussion style fences"
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#539861 - 03/04/19 10:45 PM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: Argo44]
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Heck of a deal on a $2500.00 gun.
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#539877 - 03/05/19 07:19 AM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: Argo44]
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My experience has been that he does respond to questions but may be away. Nice gun. Good luck if you decide to purchase.

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#539879 - 03/05/19 07:25 AM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: Argo44]
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Yeah, I think you have to make an appointment or similar.


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#539880 - 03/05/19 07:31 AM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: Argo44]
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Just a question here from someone still learning about English guns. What would the significance be today, for a potential buyer, of nitro proofs, with 2 1/2" chambers? Would the buyer be willing to shoot heavier loads in it if it had nitro proofs? I would think not. Was there a difference between the payloads of BP proof and NP ?

I was told by Cyril Adams, when I began my search for an English or Prussian hammer pigeon gun, to look for heavy nitro proofs ................ 1 1/4 oz. or higher. I could understand that, for someone wanting to shoot 1 1/4 oz. loads.

Just "axxing".

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#539889 - 03/05/19 08:58 AM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: Stan]
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No significance at all....just means she swallowed a couple of hard pills and survived.

I'd say the reproof came when she was tarted up for sale.

I believe for a gun to be sold in England it has to have a current proof.

My guess is the high asking price is including the cost of tarting.

Just speculations...
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#539892 - 03/05/19 09:18 AM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: HomelessjOe]
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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
No significance at all....just means she swallowed a couple if hard pills and survived.

I'd say the reproof came when she was tarted up for sale.

I believe for a gun to be sold in England it has to have a current proof.

My guess is the high asking price is including the cost of tarting.

Just speculations...




Not quite Frank. A gun can be sold in the UK without "current proof" but it must remain in proof. The bores can not exceed the maximum diameter at last proof, no matter when that proof was done. An older gun that is in proof does not need to be re-submitted for current proof standards.
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#539898 - 03/05/19 10:44 AM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: Argo44]
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SKB is right. And all the guns that may be out of proof, there will be no seller in GB who wants to sell you one because the risk to him is too great. They don’t even want to export any out of proof gun.

That’s a nice looking gun but seems to be on the high end on price. For that I’d want th barrels to ge in pristine condition, not on the thin side of half worn out.


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#539901 - 03/05/19 12:09 PM Re: E.M Reilly Side-Lever Hammer gun [Re: Argo44]
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The price seems high for a 12 ga shotgun though it looks great. As you all know I keep track of Reilly's. I've seen Reilly shotguns offered for very high prices in Europe and America. But the average for a gun of that quality would seem to be between $3,00-$4,000. Reilly's are shooting guns.

Just for comparison (and this may be comparing apples and oranges here), here are some of Terry Buffum's Reilly hammer guns sold over the past three years at Amoskeog. I felt the prices they sold for were pretty moderate. I said at the time (Spring 2016) that there were going to be some happy shooters buying those guns and the prices they sold at proved me right. It was one of the things that attracted me to the brand - you could get a really nice looking, great handling gun for an affordable price.

13033,($1,955); 14285 ($1.035); 15283 ($1,610); 17391 ($):


17392 ($2,185); 18550 ($):


17496 ($1,725); 21883 ($1,380); 24354 ($):


25460 ($); 26517 ($1,265); 26537 ($2,060):


Edited by Argo44 (03/05/19 12:13 PM)
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