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PHoto 16 could be my Greener except for the skeleton buttplate. But I suppose it could be a lot of other shotguns as well.

I would guess #16 is a Parker, A friend of mine once owned an AHE Parker that belonged to Clark Gable, we were not convinced until my wife called Kay Spreckels (his last wife) she confirmed that it was his.

I'm guessing #11 is likely Teddy's famous "Big Stick". (I worked for his grandson Archie, who was a high ranking CIA officer. As were a few other relatives from that side of the Roosevelt family. The most famous being grandson--not son--Kermit, known as Kim, who engineered the coup that brought the Shah of Iran back to power in the 50's.)

Re Gable, I recall seeing a Parker at a gun show that was given to him by Carole Lombard. CHE, IIRC.

Follow up on Aldo Leopold's 20: his son Starker was my major professor at Berkeley, and died suddenly in August 1983, just in time to avoid reading my thesis. Afterwards, his wife told me that he had left a 20 for repair at a local gunsmith but she could never find a receipt and no local shops admitted to having it (needless to say, there are no gun shops in Berkeley today). She didn't know the maker, only that it was valuable, and I have always wondered if that might have been Aldo's gun.

#11 is likely Roosevelt's famous Holland and Holland double rifle. For anyone who would be interested it is featured in the 1 1/2 hr. documentary/movie by George Butler, and released in 1989 entitled In The Blood. It is a very well done documentary about a safari in 1986 on which Butler's grandson, 13 yr. old Tyssen Butler, takes his first big game animal, a Cape buffalo, with Roosevelt's rifle. Roosevelt's grandson, Ted, is on the safari, along with R L Wilson (author) and others. The famous Kenyan PH Robin Hurt is key in the film as well. There is an underlying question that is addressed at great length in the film concerning the killing of big game as a means of conservation of the species.

One of the finest hunting films I've ever seen ........... very emotional at times, and with much actual footage of Roosevelt's 1909 safari with his son, Kermit. So as not to sidetrack Drew's fine thread, anyone interested can pm me for more information about it.

SRH

Number 16 is John Phillip Sousa holding his AAH Parker safetyless 30" pigeon gun, now an ejector gun. I have held this gun in my hands, but was outbid by another collector at auction. I was luckier with three other Sousa guns and am still hoping to add the AAH to my collection. I don't know who owns it now, having been told that the person at the auction has sold it. Drew has a picture of Sousa with his famous Lindner Daly Sextuple Diamond Grade single trap gun.

The "Boy Scout" in Photo C appears to be holding a .410 bore Lefever Long Range Single Barrel Field and Trap Gun.

Researcher,
Thanks! I had no idea what that was. At first glance I thought it might be a rifle like a Savage 99 but obviously not on second glance. I think that must be it.

#11 Stan is correct; Holland & Holland .500/.450 3 1/4" Royal Hammerless non-ejector.

As Bill said, #16 AAH(E?) Parker is in a private collection. The location of #14 is unknown. #15 is at the Marine Corps Museum in Quantico, which also has his 26" 20g L.C. Smith with a Miller Single Trigger purchased after a serious riding accident 9-6-1921.

His Lindner Daly

The CHE part I get- a grade 4 Parker hammerless ejector- but what is the IIRC code mean, if you please. RWTF