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So, shall we say that would make a baker's dozen of Fox doubles and maybe there's 20K(stab in the dark guess) duck hunters?
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Raimey rse
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"I wish I did own it. I know exactly what I would do with it"George L.
George L., somehow I believe that if you did have possession of Buckingham's Fox, you'd return it to his family. If it really exists, it should have been returned long ago.
Considering the matter further, it seems to me that every time the gun has changed hands, the statute of limitations on the felony crime of "theft by recieving" has been extended. Its not necessary to prove the original theft by conversion to prosecute for for the crime of "fencing". Although the Statute on the original crime of failing to return the gun to its rightful owner may have long expired, the present party in posession is probably still subject to prosecution. And just because the original thief is no longer subject to legal prosecution doesn't mean the gun wasn't STOLEN.
I'm no sea lawyer, I'm a sure'nuff bonified ringtailed "Juris Doctor", and I'm not the least bit envious of whoever has the gun now. I also don't wish to see a STOLEN Gun and I don't care to own any of Herman Goering's stolen european art either.
George L., you may have betrayed a confidence in reporting the Bo-Whoop siteing on the internet. Personally, I hope this leads to a prosecution of the present party in possession of Bo-Whoop...Geo
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Stan: I took some digital pictures of the gun & the markings. I'm trying to find the chip that they are on. The gun was & is straight gripped. As my memory serves me it was marked: "MADE FOR NASH BUCKINGHAM" on the right barrel at the chambers and "BY BURT BECKER" on the left. I don't recall there being an address either for Nash or for Fox on the barrels. The markings appeared to be in typical Fox print style. I learned today that the gun has gone back to it's present owner along with the Fox historian's letter (of which I have a photocopy). I note that this piece has generated 100 comments & I think that's GREAT! Ansley, Burt & Nash would surely be proud. I'll bet Ansley would have said: "Doublegun BBS is the BEST FORUM IN THE WORLD!"
Best Regards, George L
To see my guns go to www.mylandco.com Select "SPORTING GUNS " My E-Mail palmettotreasure@aol.com
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would that "owner" happen to be a shepherd that runs his herd on the powerline right-of-way?
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George, George, George - The gun was lost & obviously later found. It was not STOLEN! Perhaps the original finder had no idea who Nash Buckingham or Burt Becker were just as several on this forum admitted that they didn't know who they were either. I'm certainly no lawyer, sea or otherwise, I only practice a little real estate. However, as someone aptly pointed out: "possession is 9/10ths. of the law". Those were much different times back then & wishing someone be prosecuted without having all the facts seem a bit childish to me. There is too much real crime out there that needs to be dealt with. Those are my views on the subject. By the way at this moment I am told the gun is 3 or 4 states away. I can only guess which states away from where?
Best Regards, George l
Last edited by George L.; 08/30/07 12:19 AM.
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Maybe I don't know what "real crime" is. I hope you never misplace anything DEAR to you...Geo
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I'd say the Bo-Whoop is in the public domain - nobodies' goin' to jail George. Once your trash hits the curb, it ain't yours anymore. Finders keepers, losers weepers I think is the law eh! Why would Nash's kinfolk have any rights to the gun? Have you ever seen an ad in the DGJ, Shooting Sportsman or bbs for his gun stolen or missing. Perhaps we care more than they!
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'Nash had blinded up in a dense thicket of willows along the edge of a clear channel some 150yards from my own stand (Col. H.P. Sheldon). A pair of mallards traveling high and in hurry went over Nash. Both collapsed and after a moment of complete silence the double boon of the big came rolling roundly over the marshes. It sounded exactly like two solo notes from the bass horn in a symphony orchestra, and I mentioned it to Nash when we got back to the lodge. Bo Whoop, Bo Whoop.'
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I'm beginning to add all this up. First, the gun came from a "fine family collection". Second, it is the "best ever found". Third, it has lettering on the barrels in "Fox-like block letters". Fourth, it is "three or four" states away. I wonder if number five is "not a screw ever turned"??
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The only thing that keeps a gun from becoming "finders keepers" is the fact that it is a gun...there are no statue of limitations on a gun stolen...and I don't think there would be a statue of limitations on a lost gun either.
I think knowingly selling a lost gun could constitute a crime.
Could the Fox historian be called as a witness in a crime ?
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