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Maybe not to you, but Jim Harrison, late writer from MI--is a name I know. Once he got famous and wealthy- he hunted grouse and woodcock here in MI with a Purdey- Also, in his novella "Legends of the Fall" he describes bird hunting in MT with English Setters and a Purdey gun-- Don't know if he ever shot a Crown Grade Smith--

IMO-- 2 MI "native sons" had a mind and ear for the heartbeat of America- Jim Harrison, and Bob Seger-- When Jim was in Hollywood, trying to get established, and before he sold the movie rights to "Legends"-- he asked friend Jack Nicholson if he could borrow $15K--Jack came through- and as soon as Jim got the royalty check, he went to the bank and obtained a Cashier's Check for the amount plus interest, and hand delivered it to Jack- who later remarked- "Jim is the only up and coming writer who ever repaid me for a loan- He stands tall with me"_-

FWIW- a while ago, I sold a 12 3E Smith to a friend on this forum- it had been sent back to Fulton for the 2nd. set of barrels- 32" F&F- ventilated rib-- F&F chokes- Not crack one in the stock or forearm- my guess- it had not been shot very much at all-- 95% condition-- HOT and ejectors 100% in timing and function.

As I am NOT a live bird competitor, the lack of a top tang safety might be a bit of a drawback in possible purchase of this fine optioned "Elsie"-- Also, I wasn't aware that Dewey Vicknair would work on Smiths-- RWTF

It would be cool if was the same guy, but you would think that would have been mentioned by the seller who is about as far from MI as one can get in WI.

I imagine the signature on the guard is copied directly from the owners signature. Should be easy to verify..

When I think of Michigan, Robert Traver is the first person that comes to my mind.

Different folks may look at it differently but to me, a non-recognizable name properly applied would be a non-issue, neither adding nor distracting from the price.

I have a Ca 1863/65 W&C Scott pinfire which is marked on the top rib For Benj D Kennedy, Louisville KY. The gentleman I bought it from was from Louisville & he tried to find anything he could about Mr Kennedy. All he could find was he had neither a birth nor death certificate related to Louisville, but during the period the gun would have ben built he had a business license for a Jewelry Store there. To me, this was interesting but did not affect the $ I was willing to pay in either direction.

That's OK David. I can see the very small cracks on the left side, and you can't see them. It's understandable, as they are very small and tight at this point. I'd say the right side pic is somewhat clearer and has less lighting glare, since I can see individual pores in the wood easier on the right versus the left. The upper crack on the left is about the size of the diameter of the rearmost pin, and the lower one is about 2 1/2 times that in length.

Ted and 775 saw them as well, so I'm not the only one with a wild imagination. It could even have something to do with color perception. Lots of people here have trouble seeing certain things. For instance, King Brown has stated numerous times that he has never seen any anti-gun rhetoric posted here in all his years on this forum:



Vision and perception can be funny like that. I don't even have to enlarge that post from Ed to see it. Hell, BrentD can see my posts, even though he says he IGNORES them. How's that for Super Vision?

Yessiree- "Danny and The Boys" is a favorite read of mine- Old Cabin Still whiskey, fine cane fly rods, and a daily cribbage game at an area tavern in Ishpeming-- Great writer indeed- Sorry I didn't include him with Jim Harrison, both greats, wrote in differing genres is all. RWTF

Ed Good is correct in his opinion of too many guns and depriving firearms from people who shouldn't have them as a solution: "we are the only country in the world that seems to tolerate mass murder, in the name of an individual right . . .it's about time we as a society realize we are over gunned with too many super dangerous weapons in the hands of too many super dangerous people." US gun violence is a head-shaker to the world. For Ed to say it doesn't make him anti-gun. He's declaring a public interest: what people would choose if they saw clearly, thought rationally and acted disinterestedly.

Could it be that ed and yourself live in a world of elites and criminals? Maybe, those who act objectively, rationally, and clearly are the law abiding overwhelming majority, not the handful of philosophers? The question might be, why trust a philosopher, eh?

Why not trust a philosopher? Are you saying philosophers are criminals? How does that work?

"Depriving firearms and or access to them- from people who shouldn't have them?"" Bases on what criteria, oh mighty King.?

Maybe we borrow a page from World history and do as Der Fuhrer did once he bullied his way into leading Dem Deutsche Volk 1933-

Our Second Amendment does not determine what constitutes a "Well Armed Militia" nor could our Founding Fathers know what an AK-47 was in that 200 year ago era-- any more than they could have visualized a space shuttle or HIV or heavy metal rock music.

You live in Country with a different history than we have in America. When we visit one of the provinces to hunt, we comply with your laws about transporting our firearms into Canada- we comply or are denied access- fair enough- now how about letting America resolve the gun issues to which you refer on this forum?

RWTF

What Ed said and I believe is "philosophy" to craig, Fox. Clearly it's not for you and me. We agree we are citizens of different cultures because of differences in our national development. We agree the Second is an enduring US debate.

I admire the United States and have said here many times that the US usually gets it right over time. Your word "resolve"---to dissolve or dissipate---the gun rights issue points toward agreement of Reason prevailing.

Rehabilitation in everything involves an honest assessment of reality, whether we're putting in a crop, seeing the banker, or meeting the expectations of community and family around us. Philosophy doesn't enter into it.