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Brent, in the case of outworker or employee, maybe the factory letters from Greener supply clues.
For some tasks, a specific cost was noted, while other tasks did not show a cost. We see Mr. Jones had a business sign and his name in the factory letters was accompanied by a cost. I would guess the names with costs might be outworkers. Or maybe the employment agreement was based on piecework. An interesting hypothesis. Makes sense also.
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I have the book with Sumner, Kell records you are correct Daryl
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Not everyone is (was) Winston Churchill. Best, Ted ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/ZBGRJhN/IMG-0246.jpg) mc, Ted's post above shows the obvious... Even an engraver who never left the confines of a large city or saw a book with pictures of birds would have seen pigeons... unless Ray Charles was also an engraver. Ponds in city parks and rivers frequently have ducks and geese on the water. So the only valid excuse for engraving flying turnips or bottles with wings would either be a lack of talent, or pushing out crude renditions of birds as fast as possible to meet some quota. Either way, they probably do better than I could, but I have never been tempted to buy a graver. I need a couple engraved screws for a 16 ga. E grade Lefever I recently bought, so maybe it's time to give it a try.
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Here's a Webley & Scott 16 bore (1946). Can anyone tell me about this engraving? It's a lot different than the other Webley's I've owned or seen. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q70/924/sAjVaR.jpg) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q70/923/QXeeG8.jpg)
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Nice gun. Somebody could afford the good stuff when they went gun shopping.
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Nice gun. Somebody could afford the good stuff when they went gun shopping.
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Ted Not really, but it’s here.
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Nice gun. Somebody could afford the good stuff when they went gun shopping.
Best,
Ted Not really, but it’s here. I think that engraving is well above the level of what was standard on a post war boxlock. Some English gun makers were short on talent after the war, and it showed in the guns they produced for years. Enjoy. Best, Ted
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Keith,engravers were tought to engrave the way the shop said to and it was piece work so engraving a nicely formed animal would cost the engraver money.there were individuals who could do lifelike birds and animal when called to and paid for the extra time.in the Sumner book guns were delivered on Monday morning and expected back on Tuesday evening this was Dixon best engraving.
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Also, just because an engraver could do nice scroll didn't mean he could replicate birds accurately. I don't believe it took a good engraver any longer to do a well executed game bird than it took a poor engraver to do a flying turnip. It's not always about the time spent, it's mostly about the artistic ability of the engraver himself, IMO.
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Game scene is the toughest to pull off.
I’ve seen very, very little that I would say was worth the effort to put it on a gun.
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