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Hi Argo,
7869 certainly looks a similar gun to my 2008. It will be interesting to see the barrel proof marks.
3514 has similar looking standing breech and fences to 2008. The large trigger guard looks earlier than 1850's? but may have been ordered that way of course (big fingers/ gloves?). Is the case original to the gun?
If only more early guns would surface for comparison, it would then rule out the nagging thought in my head that 2008 was rebarreled and it was is infact an earlier gun than its current barrels would suggest. Until then, i agree that the date of 1856 has got to be right and have to accept that J C R guns sometimes had an irregular numbering system.
I will place a post on the MLAGB (Muzzle loaders association of Great Britain) forum to see if any members have early guns and would like to share the info for your database.
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For the record, here are photos of the 20 or so earliest Reilly long guns:

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162
I dated it 1828 - see caveats


https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=10247&aid=86974&lid=22392051

A 14-BORE PERCUSSION SINGLE-BARRELLED SPORTING-GUN, serial no 162, circa 1835, with re-browned twist-iron triple-stage 32in. barrel with carved bands at the intersection, the top-flat signed in gothic script 'J.C. REILLY, HOLBORN BARS LONDON', bead fore-sight, platinum line with a pheasant engraved at breech, platinum vented plug, scroll engraved top-tang, borderline and acanthus scroll engraved bar-action lock signed in script 'REILLY', highly figured walnut half-stock chequered at the wrist, iron heel-plate, the long top-spur engraved with acanthus scrolls inhabited with a pheasant, border and scroll engraved trigger-guard bow, moulded iron fore-end cap with integral ramrod throat, plain iron thimbles and brass-tipped ebony ramrod 300-400



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1174
. I dated this 1836

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...2&saletype=

J. C. REILLY - AN 8-BORE PERCUSSION SINGLE-BARRELLED FOWLING PIECE, serial no. 1174,
circa 1850, with shortened 27 1/2in. barrel, short sighting rib to breech, scroll engraved top-tang, patent breech with platinum vent, borderline and scroll engraved lock signed 'J.C. REILLY' (hammer replaced), chequered walnut pistol-grip half-stock, iron furniture, silver oval escutcheon to bottom of pistol-grip, horn fore-end cap and original (shortened) ramrod (some surface pitting to iron parts)



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3329
. I dated it 1846
London, 1837-47
Serial no. 3329, 10 gauge/.58 caliber. 30 inch brown twist barrels, the concave rib signed Joseph Charles Reilly 316 High Holburn London; single standing/single folding rear sight; breech end of rib inlaid with two platinum bands. London proofs. Patent breech. Scroll-engraved tang and back action locks, the latter signed Reilly. Engraved steel furniture. Figured walnut half-stock with vacant silver wrist escutcheon. Sling swivels. Brass-tipped ramrod. Together with green baize-lined oak case. Accessories including cleaning rod, basketweave pattern powder flask, two powder measures, oiler, nipple wrench, main spring vise and leather strap.
Condition: Very good. Barrels retain much period re-browned finish. Locks with traces of later casehardening. Sharp markings throughout. Stock with light marks. Case lid with scattered marks and missing escutcheon. Interior with old relining. Accessories good to very good.



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3xxx ?
No SN, No date but pre-1847
https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/J-C-REILLY-LONDON/22392046/LotDetail.asp?lid=22392046
A 10-BORE PERCUSSION DOUBLE-BARRELLED WILDFOWLING-GUN, no visible serial number, circa 1845, with twist-iron 36in. re-browned barrels, the top-rib signed 'J.C. REILLY, 316 HIGH HOLBORN LONDON', bead fore-sight, scroll engraved rib-end at breech, scroll engraved 'plugs', engraved top-tang, borderline and scroll engraved bar-action locks signed 'REILLY', scroll engraved dolphin-headed hammers, walnut half-stock chequered at the wrist, iron furniture (heel-plate corroded) and brass mounted mahogany ramrod 800-1,200
Fine Modern & Antique Guns - December 2014
Sold for: Ł800.00



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xxxx ?
Pre 1847 - No SN
http://www.bruun-rasmussen.dk/search.do?iid=300721740&cid=513&mode=detail
Name: JOSEPH CHARLES REILLY, 316 HIGH HOLBORN, LONDON
Description: Classical English double barreled hunting gun, c 1840; English iron mounted half stocked double barreled hunting gun c. 1840 by Joseph Charles Reilly with butt cap, trigger guard, and locks finely engraved with English scroll, c. 71 cm. long barrels in calibre c. 16,5 cm. marked on the strap JOSEPH CHARLES REILLY 316 HIGH HOLBORN LONDON.





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4573
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(x= 3,5,8,0). 1837 if "3", 1839 if "5", 1840 if "8"

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/76/400/engraved-jc-reilly-percussion-sporting-gun
"The smoothbore barrel gauges just over 6 bore at the muzzle (.93) and has a post front sight, "J.C. REILLY 316 HIGH HOLBORN LONDON" on top at the breech, and London proofs, "7" and "4573" on the bottom. The breech, locks, and furniture all have classic scroll patterns and engraved line borders. The serial number on the lower tang is faint. The stock is checkered at the wrist and has a flat buttplate. The address on the barrel indicates the gun was manufactured approximately 1835-1847 based on Joseph Charles Reilly's move dates. He entered the gun trade in 1835. It is not clear if he manufactured guns himself or contracted them out, but his son and successor, Edward M. Reilly is known to have been an air gun innovator. 6 bore guns were used for hunting elephants and other big and dangerous game in Africa and India in the 19th century."



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5512[/b]. [b]Outlier discussed above...Certainly 1847

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/820030447
Rare British double barrel 12g shotgun made by J.C. Reilly. He was silver smith before he started making guns. He made guns for royalty of Europe and Asia. This one has serial number on it(all matching) which means that he personally made and hand engraved this gun. There is a good history write up about this maker and I will post a link of it. Gun is in very good shape, it is Damascus barrels. Spring is very tight and everything works on it.



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7023 First JC "7000" series, still at High Holborn - early 1847?

https://issuu.com/holtsauctioneers/docs/holt_s_9th_march_2005
151. AN 11 BORE DOUBLE BARRELED PERCUSSION SPORTING GUN
by J.C. Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London, Serial no. 7023, with 35 1/2" re-browned twist barrels signed in full on the broad rib; silver fore-sight, breeches engraved with scrollwork, scroll engraved tang; signed locks and mounts; figured walnut half-stock with checkered grip and brass mounted ramrod; (iron parts heavily discolored; stock with some minor defects). London proof marks. Ł300-500


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Early Reilly Muzzle Loaders continued:


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7201. - 1849, second of the "7000" series,

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/aucti...20-a61700c0a9c0
Name: Joseph Charles Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London. Removed from Holborn
Description: A mid 19th Century single barrel percussion action gun, by Joseph Charles Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London, numbered 7201, the muzzle loading barrel holding brass mounted ebony ramrod under, signed to top and lockplate, engraved steel mounts with feather scrolls to walnut butt and stock, in original mahogany fitted case with maker's label to inner lid; two Sykes patent shot flasks, one with embossed leather bag; one Reilly shot tin; and other fittings. Hammer Price: Ł700.00 .



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7802 - Reilly 7000 series - I dated it 1855

http://промкаталог.рф/PublicDocuments/0523722.pdf

371.
A 6-BORE PERCUSSION WILDFOWLING GUN by J.C. Reilly, New Oxford St. London, serial no. 7802, circa 1850, with 42in. tapering twist sighted barrel signed in full at the breech, scroll engraved breech and signed lock (cock replaced), figured walnuthalf-stockwith chequeredgrip (butt pierced and filled, probably from use in a punt), horn fore-end cap, scroll engraved iron mounts, white metal escutcheon, and original brass-mounted ramrod, London proof marks.
See illustration page 109
Ł600-800



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7869 - Mentioned above, "7000" series - I dated it to 1855

http://www.amoskeagauction.com/114/270.php
serial #7869, 12 ga, 31" damascus barrels with very good lightly pitted bores. The barrels display a beautiful damascus pattern with light pinprick pitting around the breech area. The top rib is marked "J.C. REILLY. NEW OXFORD STREET, LONDON." The locks show a mottled brown patina which are nicely engraved in foliate scroll with geometric borders. The hammers show a nice scroll engraving and appear to have been lightly polished; the right hammer guard has a small chip. The engraved guard with pineapple finial front extension shows a dull gray patina. The checkered walnut pistolgrip buttstock and forend rate very good with scattered dings and scratches with a wood repair on top of the comb. The gun functions well mechanically and included is a ramrod. (177147-155) {ANTIQUE} (1000/1500) SOLD FOR $431.25



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8025 - 7000 series - dated to 1857 - one of the last JC's

Reilly, New Oxford St. London; 13 bore; Rifle; Percussion hammer gun, Muzzle loader (Buffum). (marked Veni, Vidi, Vici)
a percussion rifle (single barrel) I still have with a skull and cross bones and "Veni, Vedi, Vici" engraved. Bore is just over .700, so perhaps 13 bore. Two groove, so made for those "waisted bullets". A ball with a "belly band" and a short pointed bullet with two rectangular "bumps" are in the patch box which is engraved with what I think is a red deer. Fixed leaf marked 100. Flip up rear sight leaves for 150, 200, 250 and 300.





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84xx
- Mainline serial number series - 1847

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=42593

6 Bore; very good bore, fair stock, 26.25'' barrel, Manufactured in England circa 1840s. Barrel shortened long ago, commonly done for use with round ball against large game somewhere in the empire. Original browned finish barrel, casehardened lock, mounted in a walnut stock with double wedged forend and checkered wrist. Fine scroll leaf engraving on the lockplate and stock mounts. Engraved on the side of the lockplate "REILLY.LONDON". The top of the barrel is marked "REILLY. 502 OXFORD STREET, LONDON". Ramrod is a later replacement. The stock has an old crack on the right running from the back of the lockplate into the checkering on the wrist, and another crack which appears to have been glued long ago on left side, running from the center of the trigger guard plate up to the rear of the upper tang. The lock functions fine. Antique, s/n 84xx



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8463
- Mainline Reilly SN - 1847


http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1361-e-m...nal-case-40673/

E. M. REILLY PERCUSSION DOUBLE EXPRESS RIFLE WITH ORIGINAL CASE. SN 8463. Cal. .390 Groove diameter. 5-Groove Enfield type rifling. Approximately 1 turn in 50″. Unusual 24″ stepped octagonal barrels have extremely heavy breeches. “Reilly, New Oxford Street. London.” is engraved on narrow sunken top rib. Rear express sight is mounted on island base, has one standing, two folding leaves, plus an additional long ladder blade with very fine U-notches for precision shooting. German silver front blade is inset in raised front boss. Bottoms of bbls have London proofs and SN. Hickory ramrod has brass tip and tail, and is held by one long plain pipe mounted with sling eye. There is a retaining boss at front end of bbls which engages groove in ramrod tip. Barrels are made of unusual broad patterned skelp twist. Case hardened patent breeches have SNs on hooks, and vented platinum “blow-outs”. What appear to be original, square shouldered nipples are deeply set into fences. Breech iron is engraved with very nicely cut open scroll. Front action locks with high rounded serpentine hammers, are separated from bbls in Westley Richards fashion. Locks are engraved with more open scroll, as are hammers, which terminate in stylized dolphins heads. Lockplates are also engraved “Reilly London” and have vignettes of game; a recumbent stag on left, and running stag on right. There are silver flash guards between breech iron and lockplates. Scroll engraved trigger plate has circular finial. Trigger guard bow is engraved with another running stag. SN is on grip. Dense, slightly marbled and figured European walnut full pistol grip buttstock measures 14″ over steel, long tang, scroll engraved buttplate. Patchbox with spring-loaded circular cover is on right side of stock. Cover depicts a stag approaching through moors. Stock features large shadow line right hand cheekpiece, engraved steel grip cap, 18 LPI checkering with mullered borders, and vacant gold oval, as well as sling button, on toe line. Forestock attaches to bbl with side nail through oval steel escutcheons. Drop at heel: 2″, drop at comb: 1-5/8″. Weight: 11 lbs. 6 oz, LOP 14″. Makers oak case with inlet brass corners, is lined in deep burgundy velvet, with small Reilly paper label. Accessories include newly made leather sling, with old snap swivel, original key, as well as a copper-bodied brass top flask engraved “Reilly no. 8463”, which throws a very large charge of powder. This unusual and high quality rifle was made during an era of great experimentation with many different attempts at producing long range rifles. This particular rifle probably used a very long, for the caliber, bullet, with large powder charge, and was probably extremely effective. It would be lots of fun to see how it performs today. CONDITION: Very fine. Bbls retain 80% original brown, thinning on high edges, with some areas of dark discoloration from cleaned oxidation. Bores are excellent and bright with some minor pitting toward muzzles. Breech iron, locks, and hammers show a considerable amount of their original case color, and evidence of some cleaning. Stock retains most of its original French polish with a number of knocks, marks, and dings, as well as some lifting. Trigger guard and buttplate have most of their original blue, but silvering and flaking. Quarter size area at heel on buttplate shows heavy oxidation, and needs further cleaning. Patchbox has been cleaned to silver, with many dark areas. Locks are crisp. Exterior of case appears to be re-finished, with some cracks on bottom, glued. Interior cloth is very good, showing many areas of discoloration from contact with gun. Label is dark with large area illegible. Partitions are tight. Flask is good. 4-40673 MGM110 (5,000-7,000)



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8578
- Mainline SN but a JC Reilly gun. 1848


http://www.probusauktioner.se/auktion/au...November%202014

A CASED DOUBLE BARREL PERCUSSION SPORTING GUN
ca 1850, lock signed Reilly (Joseph Charles R. London), lock and steel mounts with engraved decorations, triggerguard with no 8578, twist barrels with London proof marks, signed on the rib JC Reilly, 502 New Oxford street London, 114 cm, case with label and powder flask; wedge missing, rust


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Here is the current chronology of extant guns 1825-1856 (from p.22 - see caveats). If It can be established that older Reilly's did not have a bore stamp, I'll create an 1855 marker. I've asked SxS 40 to look at his 7863 and Terry Buffum to examiners his 1x73.

Year. . . . . . . . . . . .Serial Numbers. . . . . . . . . .yearly production
. . . Black-Main Chronology; Blue - JC “7000” series. . . . . .*Marker footnotes. **Sanity checks
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Various known patents on SN'd extant guns

1825: . . . 01 - . . 20. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .20. .*1
1826: . . . 21 - . . 50. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .30
1827: . . . 51 - . .110 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60

1828: . . 111 - . .200 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 90
….162 - J.C. Reilly, Holborn Bars, London. 14 bore. Shotgun; percussion, single-barreled muzzle-loader
….176 - J.C. Reilly, Holborn Bars, London. .50cal. Pistols; Pair of percussion dueling pistols (Buffum)

1829: . . 201 - . .300. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .100
...254 - J.C. Reilly? (no address mentioned). Percussion pistol per Terry Weiland article.

1830: . . 301 - . .400. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .100
1831: . . 401 - . .510. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .110
1832: . . 511 - . .640. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .130
1833: . . 641 - . .870. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .130

1834: . . 871 - .1000. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130
..xxxx - J.C. Reilly, Holborn Bars, London. 14bore. Sporting gun. Single barrel, muzzle loader. "highly figured stock" (Picture)
..xxxx - J.C. Reilly, Holborn Bars, London. .45 Cal. Pistol, 14cm long muzzle loading, steel barrel, percussion pocket

1835: ..1001 - .1130. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130. .*2
..xxxx - Joseph Charles Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 50cal. Pistol; Percussion single-steel barrel muzzle loader
..1024 - Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 8.5mm. Pistol; hammer gun, steel barrel, pocket pistol (1st SN's gun with High Holborn on the rib)

1836: ..1131 - .1280. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150
..1174 - J.C. Reilly (no address). 8 bore. Fowling piece; Percussion single shot, single barrel, muzzle loader.

1837: ..1281 - .1430. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150
..1292 - Reilly, London, 120 bore, Pistol; steel barrel, percussion miniature pocket pistol. (Last numbered pistol)

1838: ..1431 - .1500. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 170
1839: ..1501 - .1700. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200
..1x73 - J.C. Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London; 6 bore Single barrel. Hammer gun, muzzle loader (Buffum) (x is unclear =3,5 or 8)

1840: ..1701 - .1920. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220
..1869 - (unknown) 10 ga. Shotgun; SxS; hammer gun, muzzle loader (Buffum)

1841: ..1921 - .2160. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 240
1842: ..2161 - .2400. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 240
1843: ..2401 - .2640. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 240
1844: ..2641 - .2880. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 240

1845: ..2881 - .3120. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 240
..xxxx - J.C. Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 10 bore. Shotgun; SxS; hammer gun, Muzzle loader "highly figured stock" (pic available)
..xxxx - Joseph Charles Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 10 bore? Shotgun; SxS; hammer gun, Muzzle loader.

1846: ..3121 - .3360. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 240
..3329 - J.C. Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London, 10 ga/.58 cal. Shotgun; SxS; hammer gun. Muzzle loader

1847: ..3361 - .3400. + 7000 - 7070. + 8400 - 8500 - . . . . .240. .*3,*4,*5,*6
..3392 -Joseph Charles Reilly, 316 High Holburn, London. 10 ga/.58 cal; Shotgun; SxS; hammer gun, Muzzle loader. (Last SN at High Holborn).
..7023 - J.C. Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 11bore. Shotgun SxS. Muzzle Loader, hammer gun. (1st JC 7000 series but with Holborn still on the rib)
..5512 (outlier) - Joseph Charles Reilly, 316 High Holborn now 502 Oxford Street; 12 bore SxS Shotgun. Hammergun, Muzzle loader.
..8463 - Reilly, New Oxford Street, London (“label-J.C. Reilly, removed from Holborn"); .390 cal. Rifle; Enfield percussion, double express, muzzle loader. (First New Oxford 8400 series)
..84xx - Reilly, 502 Oxford Street, London; 6 Bore; Shotgun, single barrel, hammer gun, muzzle loader.

1848: ..8501 - .8680. + 7071 - 7170. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280
..8578 - J.C. Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London (label - “removed from Holborn”); 10 bore; Shotgun SxS; hammer gun, muzzle loader

1849: ..8681 - .8860. + 7171 - 7270. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280
..7201 - Joseph Charles Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London; .577 cal; Rifle, Single barrel, hammer gun, Muzzle loader. (label - "Removed from Holborn")

1850: ..8861 - .9040. + 7271 - 7370. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280
1851: ..9041 - .9220. + 7371 - 7470. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280
1852: ..9221 - .9400. + 7471 - 7570. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280
1853: ..9401 - .9580. + 7571 - 7670. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280
1854: ..9581 - .9760. + 7671 - 7770. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280

1855: ..9761 - .9940. + 7771 - 7870. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280
..7801 - Reilly, New Oxford Street, London; 28 bore; Walking cane gun.
..7802 - J.C. Reilly, New Oxford St., London; 6 bore, Single Barrel, muzzle loader, Hammer Wildfowl gun
..7869 - J.C. Reilly, New Oxford St. London; 12 ga; Shotgun; SxS; hammer gun, muzzle loader (Buffum)(SXS40).

1856: ..9941- 10220. + 7870 - 7970. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 380. . . . .**1. Overdone by orders after Paris
..3514 outlier - Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London. 13bore. Shotgun SxS; Muzzle loader, hammer gun (1855-59 case label)
..2008 outlier - Joseph Charles Reilly, New Oxford Street, London. 14 bore. Shotgun SxS; Muzzle loader hammer gun. 14 bore stamp.

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Hi Gene, here is a photo of the bottom of the barrels and top rib for Ser. No. 7863

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Very pretty, SXS 40. About 1847?

Any other pics of it?

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Thanks Harry. The SN is 7869...not 7863. I've dated this SN as very late 1855 - see chart above.

Now here's the question. There definitely is a bore stamp on the barrels. This would seem to confirm the 1855 date when bore stamps were required and would definitely be another "proof of method" for the date chronology. But....what if Reilly were stamping bore sizes forever?

Terry is having a hard time wrestling the barrel off his 1x73 6 bore. If any other Reilly owners with pre 1855 guns can look at the proof marks, it'll tell us if Reilly were one of the makers stamping his guns' bore size before the government mandated it. (Since the auction houses were advertising bore size for the above listed pre 1855 Reilly's, I would be inclined to believe Reilly stamped these before the law required it...but would like to see pictures... I pretty much don't trust what the auction houses advertise without pics - I've seen them butcher serial numbers, names and address on ribs).

I'm going to e-mail the owner of 5512 outlier, the gun advertised on guns international posted above which is clearly 1847-48 and ask for photos of his barrel proof marks. (edit: You Reilly guys need to take a look at that gun!!)


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Just realized 5512 barrel proofs are posted. The gun is definitely 1847-48. No bore marks. Looks like proof of method....i.e. the chart dated 7869 to Dec 1855 - it has bore size proofs. A gun 5512 from 8 years before has no bore stamp?? Need validation however.


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Re bore size marks on 5512. Are we certain it is a 12bore gun? There looks like a feint 10 or 16 between the visual and definitive stamps on each barrel to me?
No doubt that 7869 was proofed at 13b though!

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In the other line Woo mentioned that the 1855 addition of a bore size stamp is a known gun date marker in UK. He mentioned that Greener and Manton were two gun makers who were putting bore stamps on their guns prior to the 1855 regulation.

Well on 5512 there is very definitely a 16 between the two proof marks...it is a 16 bore..as Wootang noticed. Here are the possibilities:
1) Reilly was date stamping his guns before 1855 regulation like Greener and Manton.
2) The address on the rib - "316 High Holborn now 502 New Oxford Street" can't date the gun.
3) The serial number is wonky.

I believe option 1 and 3.
-- Auction houses stated in advertisements the bores of pre 1855 Reilly's.
-- I believe most London gun makers serial numbered guns when ordered (for bespoke guns); (In 1880 Reilly began to stock and sell his Reilly-made guns off the rack; I believe these were numbered when sold).
-- I also believe most London gun makers added the address on their ribs and blacked the barrels just before shipping.
Thus, the conclusion for the moment on 5512 is that the rib address is a more solid date-maker for 1847-48 than the presence of the bore stamp is for 1855....until proven otherwise.

However, to confirm this, need more examples of early Reilly barrel proof marks.


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