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A James Woodward 12 bore fwd underlever,back action.I must take some better pics,these don't do the gun justice.I agree,the last few years the wells are getting dry...
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A solid rounded action bar, no recesses for cocking levers and other complications to weaken it, the action is just about indestructible. And super good looking too.

My Cogswell 2 1/2 inch 410 weighs 1.9 kg, about 4 1/2 lbs, a pleasure to shoot and manipulate.

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Not quite so fancy but it is my favorite waterfowl shotgun

1941 Husqvarna Model 51, I have a three of them. Sadly the finest of them got cut to 20" by some cowboy shooter, I bought it for parts.



After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Wonderful pictures, folks. I have to count myself among those who prefer the look of a back-lock to a bar-lock on a hammer gun.

Here's a peculiar case, back-locks made by Noah Butler of Wednesbury, for the notable gunmakers Samuel and Charles Smith of London, with inverted inscriptions:


And, for no other reason than eye candy, a few more back-lock pinfires.



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S.I.A.C.E. makes (or at least made in fairly recent times) a lovely back action hammer gun. I believe it sold as the "Concordia" here, although it's labeled as the 370B on the S.I.A.C.E web site (https://www.siacearmi.com/en/products-k2-2/hammer-guns/item/184-370b.html). I have one in 28 gauge with 29 inch barrels. They are very nice shotguns and it's one of my go-to clays guns.

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Why would one want a safety on a hammergun?

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Ive been lucky enough to see some of Steves pinfire collection in the flesh. Just fantastic!


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John Blissett, London, 12 gauge.


Pondeveax, St. Etienne, 16 gauge.

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Originally Posted By: steve voss
Why would one want a safety on a hammergun?

The earliest pinfire sporting guns (before 1860) sometimes had features carried over from muzzle-loading days, such as grip safeties. I guess gunmaking habits die hard, or new clients wanted the same features. In some cases, muzzle-loaders converted to pinfire retained grip safeties.

Hammer rifles for dangerous game often had sliding stalking safeties on the hammers, I suppose to be able to carry the rifle through heavy brush, much like intercepting sear safeties on hammerless guns.

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Why would one want a safety on a hammergun?


Anyone feel free to Flame Me all you desire to. I will, however, make one bold Statement. NO hammer gun is completely safe unless it has some type of hammer block. On hammer doubles the final & most efficient form was the rebounding hammer.
NO gun, internal hammer, external hammer or striker type should ever be carried with the firing pin contacting the cap or primer. Half-cock "Safeties" are usually rather delicate & easily broken in the case of the hammer being struck a blow, which can occur in a fall or a dropped gun,


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