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Originally Posted By: Replacement
CA already has red flag laws in place.


bOb Cash you better get to packing.

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DAM16SXS,
It also violates the 4th and maybe 5th amendments.
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Originally Posted By: Der Ami
This is only an extension of existing loss of our rights. Traditionally you had to be convicted of a felony to lose your right to own a gun. The "Lautenberg(?) Amendment" put an end to that. Not only do you not have to be convicted, the infraction you are accused of doesn't have to be a felony or even a misdemeanor. If your wife decides she wants her new boyfriend to have your bass boat, and gets an "Order Of Protection" to keep you from pulling it out of the driveway; you can't buy a new deer rifle to replace you old one she gave him.
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I have to agree with this. Until the introduction of these redflag laws, I thought the process to get a restraining order was the most BS thing ever created by man. Just on the assumption of probable cause of "abuse", a fellow can get tossed out of his home and disabused of his possessions for up to a month or more before a judge even looks at it. And that is no help either. I'm sure the judges that hear these cases are trained to believe whatever the victim says so long as it is plausible, but at least someone had to say "somebody did something to me" to get the order. I guess there would have to be at least evidence that "something" happened. Now with this redflag BS, we just get to speculate on who's gonna shoot up a crowd.

I cant say I'm surprised though. Laws like this that are passed in a panic when a long running shitty situation simmers with no redress and then it boils over and we get laws like this passed in the mess.

Thanks NRA! I would have happily traded universal background checks for this one.


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Originally Posted By: nca225


Thanks NRA! I would have happily traded universal background checks for this one.


It's good to see what the transgender idiot nca225's real agenda was for posting in this thread. In his/her puny brain, it is the NRA's fault that these Red Flag laws are being enacted. If only the NRA would have rolled over and given Universal Background checks to the anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats, none of this would be happening.

Truth is, once again, it is mainly Liberal left Democrats who are pressing for Red Flag Laws, Universal Background Checks, bans on semi-autos, magazine restrictions, etc. The states that already have Red Flag type laws and gun confiscations without due process are all controlled by Liberal left Democrats.

The Lautenberg Amendment, mentioned by Der Ami, was from New Jersey anti-gun DEMOCRAT Senator Frank Lautenberg.

But brain-dead Libtards like nca225 are just too stupid to connect the dots, so they keep on supporting Liberal left Democrat anti-gunners.

I notice that nobody has even suggested calling your Congressmen and Senators to tell them that we will not support legislators who infringe upon our 2nd Amendment.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: nca225
Originally Posted By: Der Ami
This is only an extension of existing loss of our rights....

I have to agree with this. Until the introduction of these...laws, I thought the process to get a....was the most BS thing ever created by man. Just on the assumption of....

....I'm sure the judges that hear these cases are trained to believe whatever....

Woke up, what a knucklehead. Insert any topic, everything you comment about is based on assumption.

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If you guys keep playing the keith and craig show, with no changes to the tune, your gonna get a lot more than red flag laws. Or maybe that's what you want? Seems like you fellows in the cabal are more interested in being entrenched, bashing liberals and making your talking points instead of acting as a stakeholder and working with the group to figure out a consensus on how to solve the problem.

You two try to play as if your smart, but your incredibly stupid if you think you can influence the process by not being a part of it. Instead of contacting your senators and congressmen, your time and money for that matter, would be better spent contacting the NRA and letting them now your dues would be better spent working on reasonable legislation as opposed to a new wardrobe or mansion for LaPierre.


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Now the idiot transgender is sounding a lot like his fellow anti-2nd Amendment troll King Brown. Both suggest that our NRA should return to the bad old days when they gave in and permitted anti-gun Democrats to chip away at our gun rights.

Fact is, our gun rights became a lot more secure after the Cincinnati Reforms when the NRA began staunchly defending the 2nd Amendment, and not giving an inch to anti-gunners. The NRA also grades legislators on their gun rights voting records, so unfortunately, most of the idiot nca225's favored Liberal Left Democrats get an "F" grade.

Wayne LaPierre makes a decent salary, but considering the great work he and the NRA have done to insure our Gun Rights, his salary and perks are insignificant. Certainly nothing compared to what the anti-gun Clintons get for a few speeches. And what about the extreme anti-gunner Barack Hussein Obama??? There's another multi-millionaire with a nice wardrobe and a mansion who did nothing for gun rights except try to take them from us. Why isn't this idiot Libtard nca225 concerned about that?

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You two try to play as if your smart, but your incredibly stupid.....


nca225 still doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're". He/she must have been taught by rocky mtn bill.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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["I would have happily traded universal background checks for this one."]nca

The 'gunshow loophole' you'd trade away is the 1968 Gun Control law carveout which was negotiated for the purpose of allowing you to swap guns with your in-state neighbor or pass your shotgun down to your grandson without having to submit him to a federal background check. If it is to be renegotiated, then the whole thing should be hashed out once again...Geo

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Originally Posted By: nca225
....with no changes to the tune, your gonna get a lot more than red flag laws....

....Seems like you fellows in the cabal are more interested in being entrenched, bashing liberals and making your talking points instead of acting as a stakeholder and working with the group to figure out a consensus on how to solve the problem.

You two try to play as if your smart, but your incredibly stupid if you think you can influence the process by not being a part of it. Instead of contacting your senators and congressmen....

How about I just cut out your NRA comments, they're nothing more than talking points that were told to use, right?

If there was any bashing, I appologize, to knuckleheads. Otherwise, it's the truth, isn't it? Think about it, when you contact your congress gender neutral person, what value comes of it other than one of their staffers hitting you up for a donation, because their talking point marketing scheme worked?

Don't you worry yourself any about my business, I'll do and not do whatever's working out for me. All that's of value to me is that I fully understand agenda hypocrisy, and reminding you, not me, of the pitfalls of faux common ground, eh?

If you're trying to imply an ounce of truth, don't be a knee jerk lemming, call it out before hand. It's on full display.

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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
["I would have happily traded universal background checks for this one."]nca

The 'gunshow loophole' you'd trade away is the 1968 Gun Control law carveout which was negotiated for the purpose of allowing you to swap guns with your in-state neighbor or pass your shotgun down to your grandson without having to submit him to a federal background check. If it is to be renegotiated, then the whole thing should be hashed out once again...Geo

Wouldn't an nca type chomp at the bit to hash out gun control. He'd be given credibility that didn't take an ounce of effort to earn. I am satified for myself that the 'universal' effort is a foot in the door. I suspect to placate there will some grandfather clause, that will only mean folks born after some arbitrary date down the road will be bound by progressive law, regs and enforcement.

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