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Drew. Rights are not given to us by the Creator. There is none. Rights are secured through force and will. If it were true that rights are secured through a creator, where the hell was he during most of recorded history where the track record is oppression by those in power? God didn't give use any level of freedom. We took it by force, and to say god gave it to us ignores the sacrifices of those who actually fought to secure it. Case in point: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/0...lYBN/story.htmlWhere is the creator and his endowed rights for these kids? NCA--It would appear you are in disagreement with Thomas Jefferson and what he stated in the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." But Jefferson never said that we were guaranteed to KEEP those rights without help. The quotation in question continues: "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." That's the kind of government we have. And if you look through history, men usually lost those rights when the government under which they lived did NOT derive its just powers from the consent of the governed. So although some may look on government as evil, the right kind of government--a democracy--is a very necessary evil. Of course no government is perfect. I believe it was Churchill who said that democracy is the worst kind of government . . . except for all the others. Sometimes we don't get it right. But at least it's up to US and not some unelected monarch or dictator to straighten things out. Your right, Larry, I do disagree with Jefferson on that point. Although at that time, I agree that it was a brilliant means to motivate people to their cause. These concepts were pulled strait out of the minds of men. Deemed to be good idea and principles and then fought for. That's all.
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Just wait till we buy Greenland and establish the gulags there. Then we'll have a place to send these people...Geo Careful what you wish for Geo!
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Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Rom_14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. That WILL include you nca. Just Hide & Watch, but at that point, I have great fear it will be everlastingly TOO LATE for you. Personally I choose to Bow to God & Confess his name now, while in the flesh & to obey his commands.
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I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra
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You've confirmed my point. What common-ground fellowship can there be between those who believe that Bible believing Evangelicals are delusional ie. mentally ill (and teaching their children the Bible is child abuse) and as such should be prohibited from possessing firearms...and the rest of us? Red flag indeed?
When confiscation is attempted George, it will be the end of this union.
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Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Rom_14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. That WILL include you nca. Just Hide & Watch, but at that point, I have great fear it will be everlastingly TOO LATE for you. Personally I choose to Bow to God & Confess his name now, while in the flesh & to obey his commands. and to enslave the darkies too right miller?
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You've confirmed my point. What common-ground fellowship can there be between those who believe Bible believing Evangelicals are delusional ie. mentally ill (and teaching their children the Bible is child abuse) and as such should be prohibited from processing firearms...and the rest of us? Red flag indeed?
When confiscation is attempted George, it will be the end of this union. You are assuming too much from me Drew. I don't think you should be punished for your beliefs. But I don't think you should be allowed to enforce them on me either, but to your credit, you don't.
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Well, it looks like the transgender nca225 is still unable to produce a shred of evidence that Trump engaged in collusion with Russia to throw the election. And he/she is still unable to prove any wrongdoing by Wayne LaPierre or our NRA.
I asked nca225 several times to produce evidence that I ever once defended David Koresh or any child molester, but predictably he/she has nothing. I have never asked Dave Weber to either lock or delete any thread. I hate to see any thread ever get deleted, because making words disappear allows dishonest people like nca225, King, SKB, etc. to then deny what they posted. Like it or not, much of the perpetual bickering here could have been avoided if words had not been deleted.
It is equally amusing to see nca225 once again accusing me of being an anti-semitic Nazi collaborator. I wonder where nca225 was a couple weeks ago when his/her friend Dr. Wanker the Insane went off the rails with his anti-Jew rant?
And it is hilarious to see King wringing his dishonest old hands and suggesting that I am against the Courts. It should have been abundantly clear that I am only against activist Liberal Left judges who attempt to bypass Congress by legislating from the bench and ignoring the Original Intent of the Framers.
It is people like King and nca225 that vote for politicians and judges who cannot find individual gun rights in the 2nd Amendment, Yet these same liberals can miraculously see a Constitutional right to kill babies up to and even after birth. With miraculous visions like that, creating something from nothing, how can nca225 and King think there is no God?
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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....I don't think you should be punished for your beliefs. But I don't think you should be allowed to enforce them on me either.... What makes you feel your beliefs are so important that you can force them on others. In god we trust, otherwise it’ll take longer to get to socialism, eh. Hmmm, crazio-cort. sez we need mucho dinero to swing the green deal.
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Just wait till we buy Greenland and establish the gulags there. Then we'll have a place to send these people...Geo Careful what you wish for Geo! Just kidding ya' nca. Don't overplay your hand. I don't guess any of us know for sure about the Lord until the time comes. It is either a matter of faith on a personal level or its not. I'm not in the preaching business so I'm going to leave that up to you. The nice thing is you have your entire life to accept HIS grace or not. Choose wisely...Geo
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