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Miller, "if" there was no god there are still lots of reasons for society to have laws and for you to obey certain laws. Mankind succeeds best with some semblance of order. It is in one's (and one's family) own best interests to create a society that isn't ruled by chaos and anarchy.

And I sure hope you aren't using the suggestion that there is no prohibition against slavery in the Bible as an excuse to excuse slavery. Because if you are, a God that excuses slavery isn't one I want to spend any time with. Nor should any thinking and compassionate man.

"and to enslave the darkies too right miller?"

I'm stunned you are still at it Miller.
"Also, note one can read the Bible through from Genesis to The Revelation & you will not find a prohibition against Slavery. You will find rules as to their treatment but not against having one."

In your desperate attempt to defend the indefensible, what have you done to your evangelistic credibility? Do you think any non-believer is going to pay attention to your words when you attempt to justify slavery? Had the South won the war, would you still have slaves; happy, well-fed, and with free medical care? What would have it taken for you to voluntarily free them?

William Barclay on James 1:9 "Let the lowly brother be proud of his exaltation..."
Christianity brings to the man a new sense of his own value.
1. He learns that he matters in the Church (where) social distinctions of the world are obliterated.
2. He learns that he matters in the world (as) every man has a (God given) task to do (Ephesians 2:10).
3. He learns that he matters to God as a man for whom Christ died.

Can your slave be your brother in Christ Miller? Did Jesus die for them so they would remain in bondage?

Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18 (KJV)
"The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound."

Read a credible exposition of 1 Corinthians 7:17-24
Classic - Alexander Maclaren
https://www.preceptaustin.org/1_corinthians_maclaren_2#saf63
Contemporary - John Piper
https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/your-job-as-ministry

Richard Rumbold, �Speech on the Scaffold�, 1685
I am sure there was no man born marked of God above another, for none comes into the world with a saddle on his back, neither any booted and spurred to ride him.

Thomas Jefferson to Roger Weightman, Monticello June 24. 1826
The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them...

John Newton in The Words of the Rev. John Newton, 1839
If the trade is at present carried on to the same extent and nearly in the same manner, while we are delaying from year to year to put a stop to our part in it, the blood of many thousands of our helpless, much injured fellow creatures is crying against us. The pitiable state of the survivors who are torn from their relatives, connections, and their native land must be taken into account. I fear the African trade is a national sin, for the enormities which accompany it are now generally known; and though, perhaps, the greater part of the nation would be pleased if it were suppressed, yet, as it does not immediately affect their own interest, they are passive.
Can we wonder that the calamities of the present war begin to be felt at home, when we ourselves wilfully and deliberately inflict much greater calamities upon the native Africans, who never offended us? "Woe unto thee that spoilest, and thou wast not spoiled when thou shalt cease to spoil, thou shalt be spoiled" (Isaiah 33:1)

William Wilberforce and Slavery
https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/study/module/wilberforce

Timely, on this terrible anniversary
https://www.christianpost.com/voice/slavery-the-bible-and-christianity.html

Hey Miller, do you keith & jOe go to the same church?

Hey Ted, what was that you were saying about enough rope?

Q: Just what kind of weird-o are you?
A: Just your average, ordinary, everyday weird-o. Nothing special.


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We live in a moment in which truth is stranger than fiction, and so fiction has to decide how strange it needs to be in order to get close to the truth.
Salman Rushdie

So, you ask why haven't top national intel and security officials backed away from something that's impossible to tell? Plus no evidence of vote tampering, isn't this just silliness?

Please, if you would, explain why this comment of yours has any importance in the context of this discussion and the feelings of about a third of the nation. Are you excusing the political weaponization of sound bite fragments by dem 'leaders' for the purpose of blocking and demonizing the regulatory and legislative process of the US?

Just for clarity, what are you claiming the average length of service of executive branch staffers and cabinet members is? When dubya was headed out the door, he gave barak a gift wrapped tarp windfall. When barry was done, he handed off comey, brenen and claper. Your current President needed friends around him, and he's clearly made transitional steps to those who can help him govern.

I fail to see where Miller has been advocating any return to slavery. Miller has shown us a photo of himself in a church alongside a black relative. The suggestion that he is a segregationist or that he thinks blacks are inferior and deserve to be treated as livestock, or as less than human, is simply more of the disingenuous and dishonest behavior we frequently see around here.

Miller has done nothing wrong. He has simply quoted what he has seen and read in the Bible, and he has not changed or subverted those words. Miller is a God fearing man who does not question the word of God, or think that he knows better.

It is interesting to see the Preacher attempting to prove Miller is some sort of beast by using a quote from Thomas Jefferson... a man who owned slaves even after becoming an author and signatory to the Declaration of Independence.

The fact that Thomas Jefferson held on to arcane beliefs does not diminish the greatness of our Nation, and the past and present practice of slavery among men does not diminish the word of God in the Bible. Atheists and Agnostics like nca225, King, or Mustela frenata are always looking for any reason to justify their denial of God. Yet I've heard some of them crying for God to help them as they were dying.

Once, the world was mostly populated with slaves, serfs, and subjects. We still have remnants of those times today with dictatorships and all powerful rulers who enslave virtually their entire populations in some manner. We have evolved and changed... and not necessarily for the better.

One thing that hasn't changed is the idea that men should have inalienable rights and freedoms. It took some time for that to take hold here in order to form a more perfect union. But it is still not 100% perfect. Far from it. The fact that Liberal left Democrats wish to subvert and take away our freedoms (such as our 2nd Amendment) proves that it is Democrats... not Miller... who need to be feared and rejected.

Thomas Jefferson, "Notes on the State of Virginia", Query 18
(In his denunciation of slavery as an extreme depravity, despite being a slave owner.)
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/JEFFERSON/ch18.html
Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever.

Poor little nca225... still on his/her never ending mission to show how stupid and misinformed he/she is.

Actually idiot, Election Meddling by various nations has been going on for decades. The United States is one of the most active in the practice, as demonstrated by your anti-gun idol Barack Hussein Obama. The former Soviet Union was also very involved in election meddling, and it is no surprise that the Russians under former KGB operative Putin would continue the practice.

Numerous Examples of Election Meddling-- Long Before 2014--Proving nca225 is an idiot

And Barack Hussein Obama knew about this. Larry Clown's former co-workers in the CIA had informed Obama about it. Instead of trying to stop it, or properly briefing the Trump Campaign about it, the Democrats under Obama made the decision to try to frame Trump and his associates, and connect them to it.

They failed. Mueller found no collusion. No Russian influenced me or anyone else to swing the election. And Russian Troll Farms seeded Social Media with crap to benefit both Trump and Hillary Clinton.

Can you or any crying lying Democrat still suffering from sour grapes say that Russian campaign did any more to hurt Hillary than her being stupid enough to ignore her husband's advice to not attack the NRA and the 2nd Amendment during her campaign? Trump won because he ran a better campaign. He promised us things we really wanted, and he has done well delivering on those promises. He went where he could get the necessary votes, and there were no Russian Cheerleaders at his rallies or writing his speeches. Those of us who voted for Trump did so because we all have seen that anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats are slowly destroying our country.

Only a very stupid gun owner would ever support anti-gunners like Obama or Hillary. For proof, just look at you and rocky mtn bill.

Furthermore, I never even suggested that Putin was trying to influence our election prior to 2016 in order to help Obama. I suppose that is possible, since it was apparent that Obama was weak, inept, inexperienced, and held Socialist views. But I never said that, and challenge you once again to show us where I ever said that.

Of course, every time I ask you to prove one of your false and ridiculous assertions and accusations... you run away like a coward or quickly change the subject.

One other thing occurs to me... neither King nor the Preacher has ever once made an issue of you posting under an anonymous screen name nca225. Neither has SKB or Glady Kravitz or Professor BrentJD. Do you find that strange? Don't you think it's time to come the rest of the way out of your closet?

So???

Jefferson continued to own slaves until his death. Miller has never owned a slave nor has he advocated a return to the practice of slavery. Miller has quoted the Bible, and so far as I know, that is not a sin.

Don't you think it's time to lay off a good man like Miller, especially when there are so many lying disingenuous God-hating heathens here? And we also have quite a number of King's sick little fraternity here... guys who pretend to support gun rights while stabbing us in the back by supporting those who work to take away our gun rights.

I don't suppose we will see King attacking you for trying to divide "our Fraternity" by attacking Miller. Do you find that problematic or disingenuous?