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#553632 - 08/29/19 10:21 PM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: pamtnman]
mbatten Offline
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Registered: 05/03/16
Posts: 28
Thank you very much!
I'll report on my progress as time goes by.

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#556718 - 10/12/19 05:17 PM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: mbatten]
Bob Jurewicz Offline
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Registered: 01/01/02
Posts: 819
Loc: SW NYS
Here are two of my recipes:
1. 300 gr Valiant .458" Cast Bullet, 48 gr 4198, 14 gr Dacron, Rem 9 1/2 Primer--1900f/s

2. 300 gr Valiant Hollow Pointed to 285 gr, 46 gr RL #7,14 gr Dacron, Rem 9 1/2 Primer--1820 f/s

Chamfer bases on each and OAL of 3.63" (gun specific)

Bob Jurewicz

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#556843 - 10/14/19 10:59 PM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: Bob Jurewicz]
mbatten Offline
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Registered: 05/03/16
Posts: 28
Thanks Bob!

Are you using these loads in damascus or steel barrels? Do they have Henry rifling?

My rifle is a vintage 1870 Alex Henry with damascus barrels; I'm wary of 'chamber ringing' if I use smokeless with case fillers.

Would be happy to hear your comments, thanks.

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#556904 - 10/16/19 02:47 PM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: mbatten]
Bob Jurewicz Offline
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Joh Haberda hammer S/S rifle with steel barrels.
Bob Jurewicz


Edited by Bob Jurewicz (10/16/19 04:09 PM)

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#557083 - 10/20/19 12:04 AM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: mbatten]
CJF Offline
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Hi there - is the photo link still working for others? I don't see anything

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#557150 - 10/21/19 04:50 PM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: mbatten]
GaryD007 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/11
Posts: 140
Loc: Ohio
Mike knows what he is talking about! I owned a fabulous Purdey .450 3 1/4"BPE top lever, Whitworth barrels. 5 or 6 small rings in each barrel. It was tested by a writer you would all know. Don't know if the rings were caused by him or after but he used smokeless powder with a filler. I also have a friend that ringed an Alex Henry barrel with smokeless loads (damascus barrels). I will not use anything but blackpowder in my old double rifles!

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#557217 - 10/22/19 04:18 PM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: mbatten]
Bob Jurewicz Offline
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It is my understanding that possible "ringing" could be caused by use of smokeless without filling the case with a filler like Dacron.
Bob Jurewicz

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#557227 - 10/22/19 06:16 PM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: mbatten]
Mike Rowe Offline
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Registered: 02/04/04
Posts: 136
Loc: Arkansas.
You are correct.
And it'll happen with fillers in the case, too.

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#557253 - 10/23/19 01:00 AM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: Mike Rowe]
mbatten Offline
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Registered: 05/03/16
Posts: 28
Oops! I accidentally deleted the photos of the rifle. For the gent looking for them a couple of posts ago, here is the link and previously posted description:

http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/rmbatten/slideshow/

This rifle has an interesting extractor mechanism. There are two angled prongs or cams threaded to the end of the extractor rod. These prongs fit into slots cut into the water table. When you open/close the action, these angled prongs cause the extractor rod to slide back and forth. Very simple and sturdy, but you have to carefully align them with the slots when assembling the rifle. You can see the left one in the photos as a thin, near vertical white line just behind and above the hinge pin.

mbatten

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#557481 - 10/27/19 08:50 PM Re: Alex Henry 450 BPE double bullets [Re: mbatten]
mbatten Offline
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Registered: 05/03/16
Posts: 28
I finally test-fired this Henry double rifle for the first time today, with pretty decent results for the first attempt, I think.

The load was 110 grains of Goex FFFg with a 280g PP bullet from Accurate Molds. I used .002 thick onion-skin paper, with a grease cookie under the bullet. I was shooting at 100 metres and elevation was pretty much right on with the 100 yard leaf. However, the left and right groups shot about 8 inches apart, so I think I'll try increasing the charge about 10 grains. Also, I should get hold of a chronograph and check the velocity next time, too.

It's sure fun - lots of smoke and flame, big boom, and a big push back for recoil!

Any observations or suggestions are welcome, thanks.

mbatten

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