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#558572 - 11/17/19 09:25 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: Recoil Rob]
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Well, another 9.5 km today with no birds in the bag. But at least no skunks either. It was a relatively easy hike, so my 7.25# Greener with 30" barrels was fine.

While walking I thought about that safety and I don't think it will be a hardship as it is, unless it is really stiff or something like that. I also thought about what I'm willing to pay and how to approach it. Tomorrow morning, I'll make an offer on the GI gun.

Maybe I'll be a Darne hunter before the end of the season. I don't think the birds will much care, but I'm pretty sure I would like it when the snow is deep in the tall grass and cattails.
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#558573 - 11/17/19 09:29 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: Recoil Rob]
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In the FWIW department, this queer old Darne that started this thread just sold for over $4100. I am not sad that I missed out on this one. Not sad at all.

https://auctions.thegunrunner.com/lots/v...engraved-france


Edited by BrentD (11/17/19 09:29 PM)
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#558574 - 11/17/19 09:34 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: Recoil Rob]
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Brent...I like French guns...and speak the language. But just in case...something from the peanut gallery... there are alternatives. My 1898 Reilly hammer gun 2 1/2" chambered 12 gauge weighs 6 lbs 1 oz. It doesn't kick like a mule and is wonderfully balanced. It's not a Darne though.



Ted doesn't have a lot of faith in this chart but....here it is again. 5X422 would be dated about 1967 I believe - and as such should have 70mm chambers:




Edited by Argo44 (11/17/19 09:42 PM)
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#558575 - 11/17/19 09:41 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: Recoil Rob]
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That's a beautiful gun, Argo. How long are those barrels? It's not really what I'm looking for, but I do like it. Is it a maple stock with that fiddle?

I am definitely interested in other guns that meet the criteria, but I don't see many and most of those I do find are Darnes. In the 16 gauge category there are a few more, but still, not something that grows on trees. Probably a reason for that, but so be it.

The Darne is just interesting to me, although a bit modern. When did the Darne action style first appear?
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#558577 - 11/17/19 09:49 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: BrentD]
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Brent, Not a double, but a Benelli 12 ga ultralight with 26Ē barrels and at 6 lbs would be serious medicine for pheasants and no problem shooting boomers. Iíve got one and it is a really good gun. Doesnít jam and easy to carry. Not sexy, but utilitarian. About $1,500 bucks. Just saying.....
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#558578 - 11/17/19 09:52 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: Recoil Rob]
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Ted will respond on the Darne...my feeling was that the first Darne appeared about 1894. We tracked Darnes serial numbers up to the change-over in Saint Etienne from cm to mm for measuring chambers in 1912 (i.e. 6.5 to 65) and pretty well confirmed parts of the chart. Ted will affirm that there are always confounding exceptions.
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=485374

The E.M Reilly with 30" Damascus barrels is my first double and my favorite.. The stock is French walnut. Reilly's are still a bargain in my opinion.


Edited by Argo44 (11/17/19 09:55 PM)
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#558579 - 11/17/19 09:56 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: buzz]
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Buzz, there is exactly zero chance I'll ever hunt with an autoloader. I'm afraid someone would see me. I bet it is a great gun, but guns have to do more than kill birds to interest me. Unfortunately. It's hard on my pocket book.
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#558581 - 11/17/19 10:14 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: BrentD]
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Thereís a place for beater guns though, like in a duck boat where thereís lots of mud, the dog gets muddy paws on everything including the gun, etc., etc. I donít take fancy guns grouse hunting because itís rough if you really beat the bush, constantly banging up against aspen trees, tripping on deadfall and then falling, et. al. ....and the older I get, the rougher the guns take it mad Soon and due to aging, I will be forced to hunt just trails, then I probably can take the good ones. But......the hunting just wonít be as good.
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#558582 - 11/17/19 11:15 PM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: Recoil Rob]
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The first Darne guns were not sliding breech guns, but, around 1877 Regis Darne started working on perfecting the sliding breech Darne. Those early guns turn up, here and there, but, I wouldnít be in a hurry to make an old one a daily user.
I have had my real old guns experience, and, moved on.

Brent, once I saw that you made use of a Greener, with safety to the left, I quit worrying about the Darne safety working out for you. A Charlin has a safety that is difficult to move, sprung like a light truck, and I no longer chase those. Again, the lever on a Charlin makes a dandy safety, but, Iím content with my Darnes.

Iím glad you missed out on Liberaceís Darne. I get queezy looking at it.

I wish you the best of luck. I canít say I know anyone who has actually completed a gun deal with James Wayne, but, I know a few people who have tried, and failed. If you end up with it, let us know.

Best,
Ted

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#558585 - 11/18/19 08:01 AM Re: Unusual, even for a Darne... [Re: Recoil Rob]
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Ted,
My Greener has a tang safety, not the left side switch. But I think I can make the left side safety work okay.

I would like to see the Liberace Darne in person, but I wouldn't pay real money for it.

Presumably Mr. Wayne sells guns. We shall see. I won't feel bad if I don't get it.
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