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The gun Miller was referring to:  v  Kinda porky for a 20, but, it is a 3 chamber gun. Choked modified and improved modified, it really doesnt fit the way I use a 20 gauge. I got some 3 ammunition with it. I havent fired a 3 round in 40 years, Ill bet. Mine hasnt been put up wet, hasnt been hunted at all. I have to work on that. Best, Ted
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I think that's a good choice. I bought one this year in 20 gauge and am very pleased with it. It has already accounted for several pheasants using Kent Bismuth. It came with a horrendous trigger pull on the right barrel but CZ took care of it in under 10 days under warranty. I bought it through Davidsons so didn't have a chance to try the trigger pulls in the store. The right barrel exceeded my digital trigger pull gauge. After that, no issues. They say the finish is black chrome, which seems to be common with Huglu guns.
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I wish the Turks would solve their trigger pull issues!
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Agreed. The CZ is a Czech gun actually, but I believe I read somewhere that the barrels are made by Huglu(?). The best solution here is to buy one new and then immediately have CZ put the triggers right under their warranty. I did that with a Dickinson .410/28 a few years ago and it has been flawless since then.
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I believe all of CZ's shotguns are Turkish, although I'm not sure they are all from Huglu. They are capable of making good guns provided someone rides herd over quality control. I also have a 12 gauge Ultralight O/U (6 pounds) that I bought as an experiment for use as a gunner in inclement weather for AKC hunt tests. I'm happy with that one, also. That single trigger is not bad.
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If you are willing to go used, the V. Bernardelli shotguns are excellent performers and can be had for relatively little money, particularly those with 25 inch barrels. I have owned a Gamecock 20 gauge since 1977 and it's served me well for over 40 years. The run around six pounds, have double triggers and extractors and seem trouble free.
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If you are willing to go used, the V. Bernardelli shotguns are excellent performers and can be had for relatively little money, particularly those with 25 inch barrels. I have owned a Gamecock 20 gauge since 1977 and it's served me well for over 40 years. The run around six pounds, have double triggers and extractors and seem trouble free. They are a good choice, but you won't find one for $500. You'd be lucky to find a 20 in decent shape for under $1,000. And don't get fooled when you're looking at Bernardellis. The P. Bernardellis are of lesser quality. The V. Bernies are the ones you want.
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The P. Bernardellis are of lesser quality. True, but the PBs fall into the right price range. Several of us bought a batch of PB SxS guns years ago when they were disappearing from the market. They were good values then, and would be good values now if you can find one. Contrary to rumors at the time that the PBs were being made in Turkey (Larry?), all the ones we got in 28, 20, and 12 ga were made in Italy. No one I know has ever had any problem with any gun out of that batch, all stamped for Cape Outfitters. And one guy used his PB 28 and 20 as his only dove guns for maybe 15 years.
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Well....I'm probably going to try one of these CZ guns for my son. For the money I'm figuring it's a good gamble. It's arguably a step up from a lefty 870. I just wish I could see one before buying it first.
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From looking at the factory video of the 12, it reminds me a bit of the Akus guns, and not the Huglu. The rounded action and the engraving makes me hope it's a trigger-plate gun, but...that seems unlikely.
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Wish I knew a little bit more than just this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFWN1a1m6lMI'll call CZ America tomorrow and confirm how they are going to deal with trigger issues. If they're reasonably accommodating on the subject, I'll fire up Gunbroker and then my credit card and... go from there.
Last edited by Lloyd3; 11/24/19 06:25 PM.
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