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I have no idea what a used one would be priced for now but I had a Richland Arms 707 (Italian built) 3"-20 gauge which was a very serviceable gun. My Son still has it. I hunted with it for several seasons, then bought my First Lefever so passed it down to my Son.

As already mentioned the Ithaca built Lefever Nitro Special or the Western Arms (Basically the same gun but with malleable Iron frame) are both stout serviceable guns. You are no apt to find a Lefever Arms Co 20 gauge within that price range if you do Latch on to it Pronto.


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I'm with Larry in recommending the Ithaca 100. I have two of them and they are hard to find fault with, other than a lack of 2 triggers and high grade engravings.


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Originally Posted By: Lloyd3
nca225: As a practical matter, you're right, a single shot that fits well and has a decent trigger will do the job all day long. However, this young man is interested in a double (and for all the reasons that presumably... the majority of us here are as well). I meet so-few young people that even give-a-hoot about such things. I'm hoping to have some good suggestions for him so he can walk the same trails that so-many of us here have walked to arrive at a point of appreciation for a good or "fine" double. The Miroku and/or the Daily are good suggestions, thank you for them.


You're welcome Lloyd. If I see one in my trolling I'll let you know.

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Originally Posted By: 2-piper
I have no idea what a used one would be priced for now but I had a Richland Arms 707 (Italian built) 3"-20 gauge which was a very serviceable gun. My Son still has it. I hunted with it for several seasons, then bought my First Lefever so passed it down to my Son.


I looked for a few of those, the guns that are out there at the moment have all been rode hard and put away wet. Good suggestion, but, it seems most of these were considered tools, and show it.
They are well built guns.

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There is also the old Sears/J C Higgins double made for them by AyA. I don't remember the specific model, but someone here will chime in. These tend to be overlooked because of the Sears name.

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Was that Sears gun called a "Matador"?

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Weren't those AYA Matadors?


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Another option that comes to mind is the TriStar 411.


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Mark: I don't know how I missed your earlier post (except that I'm doing all this on my cellphone). That Stoeger is right on the target, as is possibly a CZ gun. I'll present both of those options to this young man and see how he responds. To the rest of you folks... Thankyou Kindly! It's kinda scary how much of this stuff I'd forgotten in the last year or so. This gun game is no-different than anything else. Either use that knowledge or lose it.

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Lloyd, that's a good reason to visit this site frequently.

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