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Both of the stock blank photos have a lot of glare that might be hiding the rays on the head end....
This could be. I probably have it wrong, but if I look past the rays and other figure at the head of the stock, I see wood grain at 90* to the direction of the blank. Because the blank pattern appears to be fairly symetrical, I can't quite picture how the tight quarter sawing is lost and the grain appears to be verticle and wide at the head? The stock blank pictures are flipped 180* from the original blank selection choices. Because it's a straight grip stock, my senses tell me a layout pattern on the blanks would/might be comb down when looking at the blank pictures in this thread. It looks to me like the blank pictures in this thread were oriented with only the direction of the feather pattern in mind. If the blank and stock corelated, the straight part of the blank that would be the head, looks like it would be lopped off, and there's no wood to lay out the head of a stock in the other direction?
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The stock and the blank in these photos are not the same species of wood let alone the same piece.
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The stock and the blank in these photos are not the same species of wood let alone the same piece. Why so terse? Hug a tree, my brain will vote that these photos don't quite help with identifying the species of either. What do you see?
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Bob may be a little testy when criticised, but I like the guns he plays with. Sometimes I wonder why he shares his projects with us...Geo
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The stock and the blank in these photos are not the same species of wood let alone the same piece. With your obvious blurred vision how could you tell ?
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The stock and the blank in these photos are not the same species of wood let alone the same piece. With your obvious blurred vision how could you tell ? Billy and I don't agree very often. But when it comes to guns, I must admit that he has a very good eye and good taste in firearms. I think the last time we agreed on anything was when we both nominated Dennis Daiger and his "Last Martini" project for the Whitey-J.D. Steele award in the Classic and Custom Rifle forum. In addition, my own vision, both near and far, is still better than 20-20, and my color perception is excellent. Even at that, I still went over the pics of this blank and the finished stock very carefully, and even enlarged them to be certain that I wasn't mistaken. I agree with Billy 100% on his stated opinion that this stock did not come from the blank in question. I agree that these two pieces of wood are not even the same species of walnut. I absolutely do not think that there is too much glare in the photos to see enough details of the grain, figure, pores, direction of rays, feather, etc. to make an accurate observation. Billy and I will no doubt butt heads frequently over politics and preserving the 2nd Amendment from infringements by anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats, but I have no problem giving him credit when credit is due.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Bob may be a little testy when criticised, but I like the guns he plays with. Sometimes I wonder why he shares his projects with us...Geo Glutten for punishment ?? 1a) Rotate 180 degrees 1b) Work with the left 2/3's 1c) Note the rings, rays and feathers 1d) 2a) Rotate 180 degrees 2b) Work with the right 2/3's 2c) Again, note the rings, rays and feathers 2d) If I've accomplished nothing else, I can at least go to my grave knowing I've brought Keith and RM Bill together this Christmas season.
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I tend to like Bills rifle topics myself, and Ive told him so on numerous occasions. My personal preference is to also remind him of how much I appreciate him reminding me of the rules and my intelligence, as a political disagreement strategy based on his emotions.
Apparently, while he leaped at going off topic, he agreed that there was a disconnect between a picture of a blank and a picture of a near finished buttstock. For me, Ive seen so much variation in hardwoods that Id be hard pressed vouch for a stick of wood much beyond an educated guess. Id admit that for me, a good part of getting what I want has to do with the confidence in the supplier.
Some folks can do quite amazing things with finishing wood, so maybe it would have been a more interesting exercise to see both examples in the blank form, and ideally with many more usable pictures.
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Genuinely, thanks for visiting Bob.
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My 2 cents and I've had a number of shotguns stocked by Guild Members is it is indeed the same blank, but not laid out the way they would have laid it out as it would compromise grain flow in the wrist area. Its probably fine to do this in a through-bolt gun, but most wouldn't go that route. Agree that it is Feather Crotch American Walnut, or Claro Walnut. Its not of the thin shelled variety.
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