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Lloyd,

I hope you haven't stopped looking for a 2" 12. They are great to carry and do the job. Never stop looking or you'll miss a chance.

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When you guys talk about 2" 12s for upland, I am wondering how much that includes wild pheasants. I have never had a 2" but I think it would be at a considerable handicap for pheasants and pheasant country while the 16 may allow some advantages in that department.


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Merry Christmas, Lloyd.
I trust the young man is pondering 20 gauge loads, at this time?

An ounce is the more significant measure, as opposed to any notion of gauge. Three gauges handle that ounce very well.
Beyond that, it comes to fit.

Be well. Hope to see you, soon.

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Originally Posted By: BrentD
When you guys talk about 2" 12s for upland, I am wondering how much that includes wild pheasants. I have never had a 2" but I think it would be at a considerable handicap for pheasants and pheasant country while the 16 may allow some advantages in that department.


Brent,

I'm using the 15/16 oz load in a 2" gun for KS wild pheasants. In a 2.5" gun I use a 1oz load. There isn't a lot of difference in the load. You do need to keep a 5 1/2 lb gun swinging.

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Thanks Ken.

That seems light to me but maybe that's just me. In a heavy wind (the norm it seems) and birds flushing a little ways out, that strikes me as a light load, but maybe not. I prefer a 1 1/8 oz or even 1.25 for those really windy days.


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Ted: He's mostly pondering his old car these days (we titled and registered it yesterday), but he did like the 12 double he found under the tree this morning. I still need to send it to Topeka for the triggers, but we're talking about what is next for it.

Ken: I'm always on the prowl....

BrentD: I'd likely limit my use of a light 12 or 16 to thin-skinned birds. I have a nice Spanish sidelock that I use almost exclusively for pheasants and other such things.

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My mistake. Thought you were after a 20 for your son. He is a big man, the 12 will serve him well.
The car. That must be exciting, I remember my first, although it wasn’t as, ahem, “unique” as that model.
Give the boy my regards. Hope to see the gun, and him, next season.

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No worries Ted, my earlier post talked about a gun for a "20-something" I was working with, easy to confuse that one. I'm always looking forward to the "next year". The last few have been pretty challenging. Hopefully the next few will be far-more happy.

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You and me both. Hoping for fair weather, on several different levels, so to speak.

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I've never held, let alone shot, a 2" 12, but I do have a 2.5" 6.4lb 30" damascus Lefever 12, and it swings like a dream and shoots like it too. I rarely miss with it. I'm a huge 16 guy, but it's basically like shooting a 16, except with slightly wider barrels. I can see the attraction to the 12ga option. You can't go wrong with either.


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