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Most likely in the house.

Can you make one post without dragging O'Reily shotguns in it ?

Argo, I think your sample 1860-1871 might possibly include some conversions , both to pinfire and centerfire.

Did you mention commercially available pinfire shells ? If so, where might they be available ?

Daryl, that was a little joke. On this line below I discussed a broken Muzzle-loader ramrod and how I got another. It included experimenting with a jury-rigged double ramrod to see if I could ram both barrels at the same time, I also discussed using a penny dispenser to dispense shot cards.
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Then you mentioned that if someone would make pinfire cartridges you'd buy. I won't go into manufacturing any of these items (but I'd bet the demand would be there).

As for j-ZERO-e's usual edifying comment above....he didn't much iike either suggestion on the ramrod line. And now comes this totally extraneous comment. (j0e, this line was about when did Center-fire break-action guns actually supplant pin fires. Once again reading comprehension is your downfall. I can help...I know a place where you might be able to get a 6th grade GED on-line.)

I do not now even recall what Joe said about the ramrod thing. From my own perspective, I will have to say from my experience of having done a fair amount of Hunting with a 12 gauge double ML sus a monstrosity would create far more problems than it would solve. As I was normally mobile in my hunting I kept the ramrod in the pipes on the gun, that thing wouldn't fit. MANY time I would be successful at a single game bird or animal (Did a good bit of Cottontail hunting with beagles in those days) with the first shot so had no need to reload both barrels before continuing on, but did want to reload the one. In short, don't expect to add me to your database of prospective buyers should you decide to market this abomination.

I have no problem what-so-ever with living in the same state as Joe, Do not try to speak for me. There is some good & some bad in all of us. That includes Me, You & Joe. I have for long years tried to focus n the good & to the best of my ability to Ignore the bad in others. The world would be a better place if a lot more folks would follow that practice.

Daryl, and yes...a lot of those pin-fires I mentioned were converted to centerfires: George L's 4 bore is an example below...but if they were originally made as a pin-fire that's the way I counted them.

. . . . . . . . . . .George L's 15625 orig pin-fire (converted). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .16582 orig center-fire

Miller...you'll note I eliminated the offending post right away and truly apologize to you. j0e marches to his own drum and his posts are very rarely substantive or helpful. But I generally try not to respond in kind....it won't happen again and of course you are right about how one should conduct himself.

The double ramrod was an experiment I did for sporting clays to try to speed up moving from stand to stand. Of course it wouldn't work in the field. Ir was all sort of "tongue in cheek" but really I wanted to try to work on the ergonomics of loading at a stand. I still think coin type dispensers for cards would be very quick, and easy to use.

Argo, One might consider conversions from muzzle loader to either pin fire or center fire. Those conversions, especially the former were big business. I have seen many Westley Richards muzzleloader converted to either.

Again, have you seen pinfire shells commercially available ?