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CA tried to ban lead sinkers a few years ago. Has not happened yet, but it's probably coming.

lead in terminal fishing tackle has been banned Yellowstone waters for years.

Something tells me that a single day fee for estate shooting is miles out of reach for the average person. It may be a fruitless argument to hope that a few support jobs would be saved. Doesn't anyone care about the jobs lost when a lead foundry is shut down or the fishing tackle industry is slashed? I'd also guess that sending estate shooting harvest to market feels good, but isn't the slightest motivation for those that can afford the luxury. Why not just keep the lead and condemn that tiny bit of tainted food? Just as valid an argument? Anyway, I'm glad these aren't problems facing folks down around your neck of the woods.

Interesting. That I did not know.


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Raimey
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Nope.
A small day for a team of friends might be $150.00 per guy.

All depends on what you want.
Same number of support staff, same employment issues, just fewer birds shot that day.

Jobs are scare in rural England. People don't get paid alot.
Changes like these are horrendously disruptive.

Once they get their foot in the door it's just a matter of time. If you're not fighting against lead bans you're part of the problem.

SRH

In central Canada lead weights for fish nets are banned.
I have bought old weights from fishermen.
I get old wheel weights for making lead shot, and the percentage of lead is down to about 30%.
The rest is steel and a Zinc alloy - garbage.

Thanks for the insight CZ. Not to question your first hand experiences, but I'd suspect there are also costs for licensing and other hoops to jump through for UK citizens, not visitors of means. What I'm not getting is how a couple of high school buddies can set out on a diy rabbit or bird hunt. How do you convince the next generation to carry on or start new traditions?

As to the jobs, yes I can understand personal devastation from the loss of a job when there wasn't much to start with. In the US, this same line of thinking would shut down the entire steel or coal industries among others without blinking an eye. In my mind, there's no stigma in not making as much as the city folks that're calling the shots. I hope these country folks of the UK don't get nitpicked into submission, it certainly has its successes in the US.

It is a different world across the pond. I was surprised that Wales has banned the use of electronic dog training collars and that Scotland and England are next if it hasn't been done so already. The Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA) has a grip on Parliament that PETA (Abby and Willa, too.) wished it had on legislatures here in the US. Gil

Sometimes the beaters and pickers at small shoots are voluntary rather than paid. Guns swap jobs with beaters and pickers. At least that's how Catlow describes the process in his book "Private Thoughts from a Small Shoot". Bigger commercial shoots, the helpers are always paid.

Re the lead ban, there are already steel shot loads available in the UK and approved for guns which are not steel shot proof. They're lower pressure, lower velocity, and restricted to smaller shot sizes . . . I believe no larger than a US #5.