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Please dont take offense if I dont remember a specific gun, or, who contacted me about it. I get a lot of emails and phone calls in a month. I try my best to answer questions.
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Some pictures:  Sliding breech gun with actual side locks.  Sliding breech gun with disc set strikers. Bizarre amount of cast on original stock:  Carl and his stocker have been busy:  Safety side of gun:  Top of gun. Says Francisque Darne, differentiating from the typical Regis Darne product. Francisque was Regis Darnes eldest son, and opened up his own shop in 1910. He died in 1917, but, his company soldiered on into the mid 1950s with different owners.  Carl, a good, clear photo of the barrel flats would be most helpful in nailing down some more details about a very unusual sliding breech gun. See what you can do. Ill look through my catalogs to see what I come up with. Best, Ted
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Hi Ted,
Just sent them to you and thanks very much for posting the pics.
Just a couple of points. This gun took four years to get straight. As you can see above, the stock was replaced to eliminate the 1 3/16" cast off. That was an engineering nightmare for my stocker. Then, there was a broken hammer spring that had to be replaced. You can imagine the problems of finding a F. Darne hammer spring. After looking on and off for 2 years, I had one made by my gunsmith. Now it looks great, shoots great and I am one happy gun owner.
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AWESOME Great pictures  Ted, thank you for posting these ! Enjoy the shooting  Mike
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USAF RET 1971-95 ![[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/57865_80x60.jpg)
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Back in the day, when I wrote the Darne, Charlin, and Francisque Darne sections of the Gun Blue Book, I noted that most of the Francisque Darne guns were tinkered with versions of the 1894 Regis Darne patent.
Nothing has changed from that, in my opinion. Further, Id guess he got his unfinished but barreled and proofed actions from his Fathers companies back door.
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What a fantastic gun! I'm amazed that it could be stocked with a through bolt and that much cast off. Does it have a nut on the end of the bolt or is it a normal slotted head?
Is the safety in the fire position? If not, where is the fire relative to what it shows in the photo?
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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A few more:   A lot of information to digest. This gun was built during the Jallas e Cie era, after the First World War and prior to the second. There is a catalog available from Abbey books from this era. The gun was originally a 2 1/2 chamber gun that featured longitudinally polished bores, which, was a big deal. It is a double proofed 12 gauge, with, what appears to be Jean Breuil chopper-lump tubes. It was proofed with French powder T in St. Etienne. They were still pointing out they won a gold medal at exposition in 1904. Neat gun. Do the side locks and disc set strikers add much to the 1894 Darne patent that this was hewn from? Im not so sure about that. You guys that study barrel makers marks recognize those marks? Best, Ted
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Difficult to read all the inscriptions and Ted knows more: Outside of the normal advertising stuff and .65 chambering:
-- F. Darne on top of the barrel flats.
--" E.Jallus & Co.successeurs" - owners of the Darne firm in the 1930s. (Gold medal...Lyon? 1879?)
-- Barrels were made by Claude Brueil
Need better photos.
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Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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Difficult to read all the inscriptions and Ted knows more: Outside of the normal advertising stuff and .65 chambering:
--" E.Jallus & Co.successeurs" - owners of the Darne firm in the 1930s. (Gold medal...can't make out the place....Monaco?)
-- Barrels were made by Claude Brueil
Need better photos. Owners of FRANCISQUE DARNE. Totally different company than Establishments Darne. Best, Ted
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Sorry Ted...I did mean F.Darne...left it out..typing too rapidly. Wonder what the Gold Medal was about....I'lll take a look.
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Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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