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You read kind of goofy Brent.

If you're a science kind of guy, haven't therapies in just the past two days already started flattening curves, for instance even Cuomo has backed off on some of your chicken little rhetoric? Doesn't the science say this thing has a surprisingly low mutation rate and should be routine to vaccinate against? I don't believe their numbers for a moment, but are you accepting that china is pulling out of it, but the US can't?

Or, does grade school level bio class fit your narrative better. I think you're hyperacademic, the fasttracking might be double blind siding your charts and graphs.

Boy, I for one am glad we have a nation of college students out of the classroom. I don't want to hear it, please don't tell me you're making them watch video streams of you.

Seems like you're trying to flunk Lloyd and he's not even in your class. Close your eyes, imagine all your student's faces, they're just regurging things that make you feel good, so that they get what they want, that little piece of paper.

craig, as I and others have said before, you write kinda goofy, so I guess we are even.

"starting to flatten the curve" Do you have a clue what the curve it, what sort of number is produces and how far one has to go to be "flat enough"?

Criticize me all you want. Do the math yourself. You obviously know how (right?). Show us the answers. Post them right here.

BrentD: We're clearly not going to see this situation in the same light. My only question would be why are you so combative about it?

Also...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauman...-masks-n2565908

Lloyd you came here saying you don't know what to believe. Therefore you don't seem to have anything reliable yet you know with this admitted lack of confidence in your knowledge that whatever it is that I know is worthless and pass me a few insults on that account. And then there is craigd, so yeah, it's hard to figure, if you really don't want to figure. Otherwise, it is pretty easy.

No one is more grateful than me that your not a tuition paying student here.

No Brent, that is not what I was intimating.

What I basically said is that I don't know "who" to believe about the facts of this pandemic. Most of the mainstream press in this country has clearly abandoned any pretense of being an honest broker of the news. They are clearly (at least to me) gleeful to have this issue to report on and...they seem to be projecting nothing but the gloomiest and doom-iest outlooks they can locate. Now...part of that is their business model, as fear unquestionably sells face-time. However, I can't help but suspect that this narrative dovetails nicely with their clearly-telegraphed (w/90% negative coverage of this President) hopes for the upcoming election. Many are now dropping the Whitehouse daily briefings on the outbreak because they claim that the President is somehow "misleading" the public. What is more-obvious to me is that the polls are indicating the approval ratings for President Trump's handling of this tragedy (and it is tragic now, no question) are mostly positive and climbing. I think we still have much to learn about how this challenge needs to be met, but it is not helpful to spread fear and even dis-information to further their rather-nefarious ends. I pray that there is an accounting for all the misdeeds that I have seen and heard occur in the last few weeks and months.

As an example...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/...eople-to-death/

Really Brent? Your media is the media that lambasted Trump as racist in early Feb for closing borders with China. Now they are bitching he didn't do enough fast enough.

The head of the WHO was saying in mid January there was no evidence of human to human transmission.

The governor of Nevada is banned the use of chloroquine because Trump touted it as a possible cure. Trump is shit on for touting it by the media. In the previous 3 days, the media had been touting it in stories about the small test in France that was so successful.

The media deride Trump on chloroquine and say nothing when Cuomo stockpiles it for New York.

And I'm not even trying.

There is enough bullshit and misinformation to go around. And its being spread on both the left and the right. Quit pretending you and your side has the moral high ground.

Lloyd, if Breitbart is what you consider reliable news, then that explains a lot.

craigd, Trump didn't do a lot of things fast enough, and he still isn't. And he lies about what he is doing while continuing to tell us over and over about the amazing sacrifices HE is making. And people will die - lots of them - as a result. I think it was on this forum that I listed what he could and should be doing a good while back. And some here said I was overreacting (a bit less polite as I recall). Now those things are being done (mostly halfassedly). Weeks late and hundreds of millions of dollars short. He lost the window of opportunity, and now we pay for it.

The buck stops where? At some desk in a funny-shaped room on a Pennsylvania St. somewhere.

I'll raise a glass of scotch tonight to toast to your bottle of chloroquine. Good luck with that.

No wonder lefties whine about needing ventilators. You�re pretty generous with other folks money, yours is for scotch, custom smithing and philosophizing about molding mushy minds?

Edit to add; hey cback, sorry to hear this virus is hitting close to home.

It pains me greatly to find myself in partial agreement with at least some of what BrentD has posted.

Like Lloyd, I see a lot of Fake News from the anti-Trump media. They see this pandemic as just another opportunity to try to remove the President. But there are enough credible sources to know that this Covid19 virus may be very dangerous. It appears to spread extremely easily, and if they discovered a vaccine today, it wouldn't be tested,8 approved, manufactured, and distributed for at least a year to 14 months. There is absolutely nobody who could predict how or if this virus could mutate. And right now, there is no proven drug therapy that is guaranteed to save lives. It is way too early in this game to make predictions.

I urge everyone to Google "1918 Spanish Flu Smithsonian Magazine" for several very good articles. It is amazing that something that killed so many people was largely forgotten, while everyone knows about a much smaller loss of life when the Titanic sunk six years earlier. 195,000 people died in one month in October 1918 in the U.S. alone. And the U.S. population was much smaller. It almost seems as if it was so horrific that the entire world tried to forget it happened. Epidemiologists have been telling us that this would happen again.... not if, but when.

As far as Donald Trump's response, I don't believe BrentD' s claim that he complained Trump wasn't doing enough early on. I'd like to see proof of that statement. Worthless lying Democrats were roundly criticizing Trump for shutting down travel with China, and later Europe, calling him xenophobic and saying it was an over-reaction, When it comes to the speed of his recent responses, we all know it was disingenuous Democrats who were stalling and trying to slide all kinds of unrelated Socialist crap into the Stimulus bill. And if Trump had stated an intention 4 months ago to build 100,000 ventilators and crank out millions of masks, gloves, and other PPE, then Democrats and the slime on CNN would have claimed that he wasn't fit for office.

I want to remind everyone again that the Obama administration was bringing people sick with Ebola back into the U.S., which is about as irresponsible as you can get.