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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
....hatred really isn't the right word either. It comes down to anger and frustration at seeing the country torn apart. I blame Trump for much because he polarizes every issue and attacks all who question or disagree....

....That many support and admire him is is profoundly discouraging....

On at least the handling of the coronavirus issue, the majority of the country approves of the job the President is doing. Polling is a science, right?

Have you ever looked up the definition of the word, bork? Why would someone necessarily become emotional? You could just as easily make the decision to wake up one morning and decide not to be polarizing, yet you make the decision to do the opposite. Maybe, the question to ask is why a left wing brain jumps to the conclusion of hatred, and then becomes stuck on the hypocrisy of justifying.

Let's see what the dems do to nominate a candidate, will of the people or an opportunity to reintroduce mega foriegn funding in the back room shadows of social distancing and manicured video releases for the sheeple, eh?

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Keith: Thank you for that. Spring comes earlier here than there, and with the better weather I'm outside and walking as much as possible in the sunshine (distancing...of course). I'm jealous that you're still working as all my projects are Federal and are now dead in the water. At 62, I'm nearing the age range of being at some risk (notwithstanding your chilling report of your daughter's mid 50-year old coworker) but...I'm in better shape now than I've been in arguably 20 years. Post-Lymes, my immune system seems to work pretty darn well now, so I'm hopeful. I could become a complete hermit to avoid any risk, but we have a 16-year old who is looking for work to pay for his old car habit, so it seems to be inevitable that we will be exposed eventually. Cowering in our homes is a pretty miserable existence so... not sure how long that will last for me here. My son calls this "lock-down" situation "light communism" which I thought was fairly insightful.

Canvasback: I'm a huge Jordan Peterson fan. His lectures on YouTube are nothing short of spectacular. I own both of his books but listening to him is far-better than just reading him. Can't wait for whatever he does next.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Stan, On reflection, it really isn't Trump himself that bothers me so. He is merely a symptom of the times though he is a master at capitalizing on those symptoms. And, hatred really isn't the right word either. It comes down to anger and frustration at seeing the country torn apart. I blame Trump for much because he polarizes every issue and attacks all who question or disagree. His vision of a desirable future and the means he is willing to use to in order to achieve it are simply wrong. That many support and admire him is is profoundly discouraging. I appreciate your asking for clarification.


Trump polorizes every issue?? How about this one Bill. The subject of the thread. How about Nancy Pelosi scuttling last Monday (if only for a day or two) the bipartisan 2 trillion bailout? Is that recent enough you can remember it?

I notice, as others have before, that you NEVER directly respond to a post like this. But that's okay. You can't. You haven't a leg to stand on. You are busy swirling in your own world of hate and misery, guided by (by your own admission) extremely limited information that is rife with confirmation bias. The truth is you have no idea what you are talking about. You don't avail yourself of the facts, you simple repeat the hate.



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Lloyd, not sure if you know this but Jordan Peterson has been extremely ill since last fall. Was on the road to recovery last I heard but with the Covid19 virus about, I'm sure he's in a very high risk situation. I wish him well.


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James: Sadly, I had heard that. Both he and his wife seem to be facing some pretty extreme challenges. We certainly do live in interesting times (wasn't that an old Chinese curse/proverb?).

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I just returned from an hour's walk on Mount Sentinel. The open west face is full of meadowlarks, and they're singing full blast. I saw robins and the season's first mountain bluebird. Being outdoors helps. John Prine is seriously ill. I miss him already.


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CB, Pelosi and the Democrats worked hard to steer funds to ordinary working people and to prevent giving Trump 500 billion dollars to dole out to his cronies. Perhaps you'll defend Lindsey Graham and that lone Republican holdout who were terrified that some poor soul in fly-over country might get $50 dollars a month more than he earned in his now non-existent job. The party of your choice has no clue how ordinary people live. Trump's great talent is that he understands how to make these people angry, and he knows how to make them scared, but he has no idea how to make them whole.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
CB, Pelosi and the Democrats worked hard to steer funds to ordinary working people and to prevent giving Trump 500 billion dollars to dole out to his cronies. Perhaps you'll defend Lindsey Graham and that lone Republican holdout who were terrified that some poor soul in fly-over country might get $50 dollars a month more than he earned in his now non-existent job. The party of your choice has no clue how ordinary people live. Trump's great talent is that he understands how to make these people angry, and he knows how to make them scared, but he has no idea how to make them whole.


Seriously Bill? That was a bi-partisan bill. Developed by both sides and an agreement to pass it was in place. Then Pelosi politicized it.

And as far as knowing how to make people angry goes.....how did Hillary and her deplorable comment go over.

You know Bill, if you acknowledged that both sides play politcal games, I'd agree with you. But you, time and again, pretend only the Left is honorable. Only the Left have peoples interests in mind. If Pelosi is so committed to looking after the little guy, why do so many little guys abhor her?

At least Trump made his money, whatever there is, BEFORE he got into politics. Take a good look at your buddies Pelosi and Biden and consider how they have been looking after their own pockets, never mind the pockets of billionaires. And while we are on that subject, how many California billionaires are lining up to support the Dems. Why is that do you suppose?

This is so easy.


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Democrats are concerned about ordinary people?

*increasing airline carbon emission standards
*same-day voter registration, early/mail voting, ballot harvesting provisions
*union bargaining provisions
*wind/solar tax credit expansions
*federal/corporate gender/racial diversity requirements
*extension of non-immigrant visas
*money for planned parenthood

that's some of the rubbish Pelosi tried inserting into the last stimulus package, how is that getting money to ordinary people?

or maybe you're talking about the $25 million for the Kennedy Center, so they could layoff the orchestra hours after receiving the money

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You want to talk about ordinary people Bill? I'm probably the most ordinary person on this board, my yearly income is less than some peoples yearly gun budget. And all I see is a democratic party that wants to take away rights, destroy the country economically, and beat everyone down into peasants so we can beg for crumbs from our progressive "betters", of course none of that will apply to them. You want to know why people support Trump? because, regardless of his faults, he's fighting them, but until you leave your bubble, you'll never understand it

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