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Bill, all of those things are policy issues that have no place in a bipartisan economic rescue bill. That's what I mean about politicizing it. Fight for that stuff in the normal course of events....not during a crisis by trying to sneak it into a bill designed, on both sides of the aisle, to help with the fallout of the pandemic.

Sorry Bill, I have to follow up.

How is increasing airline emission standards getting money to ordinary people?
How is same day voter registration etc getting money to ordinary people?
How is union bargaining provisions getting money to ordinary people?
How is wind/solar tax credit expansions getting money to ordinary people?
How is adjusting federal/corporate gender/racial diversity requirements getting money to ordinary people?
How is extending non-immigrant visas getting money to ordinary people?
How is getting more money to Planned Parenthood getting money to ordinary people?

None of what you listed is about replacing the income shortfall that ordinary people are suffering right now because of the economic shutdown due to coronavirus. NONE OF IT!

A little bit ago, you said you took a stroll in the outdoors, sounds kind of ordinary to me. Will gender reassignment and then a free abortion when you claim you're a female make you a whole person? Inappropriate example? I have others, what's your pleasure?

I'd like to discuss what a whole person is, and how the gov. is responsible to provide it for someone.

CB, I have no hesitation admitting both parties play politics. I have no hesitation admitting both parties are responsible for our being woefully unprepared for the current crisis. If you want an outrage, take a peek at what Republicans wrote into the rescue bill. I favor Democrats, not because they have a franchise on integrity but because their basic tenets are focused on ordinary people, not the hyper wealthy. Both parties have failed us, but they're what we have to go forward with.

Tim, I follow conservative politics closely and pay attention to what Trump says and does. Whenever he gets something right, I'll give him a pass. Perhaps, as an ordinary person, you could mention some things Trump has done that benefit you directly. He may have your vote, but he does not have your back. His policies are consistently in favor of the class to which he aspires. He is a con man. Las Vegas is his natural environment. Casinos and fake colleges are his stock in trade. Still, if he's your man, welcome to him.

When he was campaigning, he produced a list that claimed he would use to select Supreme court nominees. Didn't he?

Try not to brush off pelosi's list of pork by equivocating. Real people and victims were put on hold for your politics, how did that have the back of ordinary people?

Craig, Look again at who held this bill up and the reactions of members of his own party. How does Tim benefit from having Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court? Look, politicians make deals. It's how anything gets done. If you happen to like the deal, then it's OK. All the stuff Pelosi did, aside from the airline item, benefits people I identify with. I'm not rich. Check out the provision for realtors.

You fully understand I don't know Tim, right?

I think 'he' benefits in at least two specific ways. First, way back during the Saddleback townhall when barak was campaigning, he said he would appoint justices that would legislate from the bench to benefit the single minority biological female that happen to have offspring, right? Explain how that helps someone that, I'm going to assume, legitimately identifies with the traditional concept of being a 'Tim'?

Secondly, prior to Justice Kavanaugh, no one alive except your President believed that it was possible to defeat a full on borking. All Americans of any stripe benefit from the glimmer of hope that a smear campaign is not binding law according to progressives, right?

Of course your religion of the left benefits people, only it's just a handful in the most hypocritical way, eh bill?

Another word salad (tossed). Alas. Conservatism suffers from a lack of clear language, at least since the demise of William F. Buckley. His command of English was commendable; the only problem was that none of his ideas were post middle ages. Craig, you may disagree with me, and that's OK, but at least you know what I'm saying that you don't buy. Look, this isn't the best time to fight over political philosophy. Why don't we call a truce 'til it looks a little better for our having a future to disagree about?

As a leftist public school teacher, one who no doubt took great pride in preparing US school children to consistently test at a level between their peers in the countries of Bangladesh and Albania, at a cost above and beyond what the rest of the world spends per pupil, I submit you are in no way prepared to see the nuance and irony in a Craig post. Your tear stained comfort pony awaits you.

Well done, Craig.

Best,
Ted