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Two chokes, one for close and one for far. I think it's an advantage...Geo

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There痴 quite a difference between what folks think is decoying, are the birds flying full speed and swing by to take a look, or feet down at twenty yards. Same with pass shooting. I still think pattern that modified barrel, with the steel shot of your choice, then I think you値l have an idea what you think値l work for you.

I would keep in mind that not all barrel work is just a choke measurement. You can show your gunsmith pictures of the pattern(s) and ask if he can get you where you want to go. From the get go, based on your gun, I figured you are thinking about using relatively small steel shot, and not necessarily the hottest loads. With more info here and there, you may not want to get into significant barrel smithing. Anyway, it値l work out.

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I like 1/4 and 3/4. Works very well.


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Originally Posted By: craigd
I still think pattern that modified barrel, with the steel shot of your choice, then I think you値l have an idea what you think値l work for you.


That's a great idea. Unfortunately the modified choke turned out to be an improved modified. I do not dare to fire steel through it.

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From the get go, based on your gun, I figured you are thinking about using relatively small steel shot, and not necessarily the hottest loads.


You are right. No hot loads, it's only 12/70. As for the size, #2 is the biggest in my list, mostly it will be #4 or #2. Early season #5 also.

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Of course you could go to Bismuth and shoot whatever size shot you wanted...Geo

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Bismuth is not a reasonable option here in Europe right now and I believe it will never be.


If only it would be cheaper...

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Where is here?


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
Where is here?


I'm sorry, BrentD, you probably didn't notice that I already answered this question of yours. I'm in Finland. In general the prices in Europe are nowhere near to those that you have. Bismuth shots may cost even six times more than the corresponding steel shot.

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I missed that. Sorry. I was watching on my phone and missed some details apparently.

I ask because I wondered if you would hunt capercaillie with this, and how that would affect your choices of chokes.

I pay about $160 for 10 lbs (~4 kilos) of Bi. I am sure it is more over there, but then most things are. While Bi is expensive, hunting ammunition is not all that big of a deal because I don't need that much of it, though I hunt nearly every weekend.

You could optimize with steel for the common uses and then switch to Bi for just those few instances where you need something else. For years, I shot steel on everything except geese. I bought some Bi for just that purpose and a little goes a VERY long ways when it comes to geese for me. 20 shells lasted several years in my instance.


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Jalo, congratulations on your Miroku 500. I've just acquired one in 20ga.

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