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I read where old time gunmakers made their own tools. How were files made?
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Go on YouTube and watch the videos by a fella that posts as "Clickspring". He shows the chisels made, and in use.
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Yes, I imagine most trades that used files required the knowledge of how to make the tools. Take a look at this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB58hkncznI
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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Last edited by bushveld; 05/29/20 11:31 PM.
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Making a file is not unduly difficult. It does involve some specialized skill, though. A very sharp, specially ground chisel to raise line burrs across the width of the file blank is required. The file blank needs be high carbon plain steel at minimum. Lower grades of steel may be used with case hardening (actually through carborization of the burrs). Depending on the metalurgy of the blank, heat treating can be farily simple to rather complex. This day and age, files are more or less a commodity item. I once observed one of Purdey's workmen profiling a barrel with a hand/purpose made file gifted to him by his gaffer.
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I can’t think of very many gunmakers who learned their craft via apprenticeship, mention file making during their tool making phase (usually the first phase of the process is spending a lot of time in the machine shop and learning tool making, and to get out of that phase, your skills are judged by the master of the machine & toolmaking shop) of the apprenticeship. I talked about this with a friend of mine and he made no mention of ever making files. He did mention that file making was an entirely different animal and there were “specialists” for that....aka file making companies like Nicholson, Stanley, Grobet, Vallorbe, etc.
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Thanks now I know! Must try that vinegar refreshing method on some of my old rasps.
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I just viewed some nice pictures of a drop point file. The gentleman who made it told me he had been a gunmaker for years and always struggled to get drop points right on restorations. After working for a top tier London maker he was shown the proper tool for the job. I plan on making a couple in the next week or so. Different from a flat file, no need for a chisel to bump up the teeth, they are filed in. Should be a fun job.
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Steve please post some pictures.
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