doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com How would you respond to this statement?

Explains why he is always yammin about the 16 in a 28 forum!

Opinions like that are just a valuable to me as an extra anal orifice. One is enough but when you find a big one they just seem to run on and on trying to impress you with their bending over backwards for your benefit.

I have seen many a side lock dog that I would not bother picking up off the ground and more than a few non side locks that I almost drool over. But to each their own. If you like it, enjoy it and be happy. Otherwise, just STFU as they use to say when I was younger.

He's planted himself at 16ga.com. Guys there are mostly noncompetitive types, hunters, some-but not much fine gun savvy, and he has found a safe haven. I'm nowhere near as active there as I used to be.

Dave, I don't know if the two are connected for you, but they are for me. Don't post or read there nearly as much as I used to. I check in about once a week now to read wyochuker's threads and see if there are any interesting SxS threads that appear. I can only take so much pompous bloviation in a week.

There's always been one or two who emerge over there craving recognition. I tune them out.

Just my opinion, but I'd say the Sauer in question is orders of magnitude nicer than a restocked 00 Smith with a polished frame.

Dave, is 16ga Guy still around? He is/was a character. Used to talk about pheasant hunting in MA--where they have something like an 8 bird season limit. Goes back to when Iowa was leading the pack in annual pheasant harvest. Told him I thought that sounded like a good long weekend in IA. He added that he also hunted ringnecks in Rhode Island.

Re the original post, I would guess that smallbore Grade 60's are pretty darned rare. I just acquired a nice Grade 40 16ga. Maybe I've missed some high grade examples, but while Sauer sidelocks are nice, the ones I've seen haven't had a lot of engraving. By the time you get to the Grade 40's, you've got incredible deep relief engraving (and mine doesn't even have any rabbits--only game birds and dogs!) And according to Jeff Stephens, who wrote the DGJ article on scalloped Sauer boxlocks (Summer 2004), he'd seen only 2 Grade 40's in 16ga, and 3 in 20ga. He added that the 60's are more commonly seen than the 45's, so maybe there are a few more of them as smallbores, but I can't imagine there are very many.

Does rare equate to "best"?
I have a Union firearms do was around here someplace.lol

Is a V L & D Knockabout Sauer sidelock or a sauer made Manhattan Arms sidelock a � Best� because of the � superior engineering � over a pre war Sauer mo. 18 A&D based boxlock, rare or otherwise? I think that was the presumption.
JBP