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So the earlier thread has peeked my curiosity, just wondering what other thought.
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Well, I may be biased but I would say yes, a box lock can be a best gun.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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What constitutes "best" is a matter of opinion, so I don't think there is a wrong answer. For me, and considering a shotgun only, it would have to be a sidelock and never an over/under or single barrel. But were we talking about rifles that would change.
I don't think of American guns ever being "best" which is not a reflection on their quality but simply their being Yank guns and not Brit guns.
If someone thinks differently, I have no objection.
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1906 William Read & Sons Catalogue for comparison
“Highest Quality” Westley Richards with single trigger - $595 W.W. Greener G70 “Imperial” - $500 W&C Scott “Premier” - $375 W&C Scott “Imperial Premier” - price on application Purdey - 89 pounds 5 shillings sterling - about $446 Joseph Lang & Son “Highest Quality” sidelock ejector - 65 guineas Parker Bros. AAHE - net price of $318.75 Lefever Optimus - $280
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A "best gun' is a gun that was built to the highest standards a maker could achieve. That gun was their best. It didn't matter what the action type. Usually, the best that a maker could achieve was of extremely high quality and workmanship. Certainly, a box lock can be a best gun, IMO.
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A "best gun' is a gun that was built to the highest standards a maker could achieve. That gun was their best. It didn't matter what the action type. Usually, the best that a maker could achieve was of extremely high quality and workmanship. Certainly, a box lock can be a best gun, IMO.
SRH Totally agree!
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Sight unseen, wouldn't an Imperial grade Greener or a droplock Westley Richards be considered best guns?
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It's a British marketing term.
No more, no less.
People get all caught up in the terminology as if it means something.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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`Best` does indeed mean something but it can be judged by several factors ,not all obvious to the casual observer ! As others have already said it can apply to any design of gun and indeed has been. Counting pins in lockplates ,disc set strikers,etc,etc are not particularly indicators as many seem to assume ,`Best` workmanship is the determining factor.
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In English yes, in American no.
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