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The MX8 and MX2000 guns have removable trigger groups and are classified as true trigger plate guns. The MX12 and MX2000S have non-removable triggers. Are the MX12 and 2000S guns considered boxlocks or are they considered trigger plate guns too? I�ve been told both things (the trigger mechanisms for the MX12 appear to be pinned through the back strap which appears an integral part of the action).

Well, I�m not surprised there is no response here. There�s next to nothing re this issue out there on the internet. I�m voting the MX12 and MX2000S guns are boxlock mechanisms and NOT trigger plate guns. Thanks for looking and considering this question.

Buzz, I will look in my Perazzi book asap and see of there is anything there that might help, although I am fairly certain you have already checked there. (?)

SRH

'Trigger plate action' is the term we're looking for here, right buzz?

The location of the hammer axles would seem to be the defining characteristic.

If the hammers ride on the trigger plate, and the bottom 'strap' or tang drops free from the rest of the frame during disassembly then you have a 'trigger plate action'. A 'Blitz action is a subset of that type.

If the frame (or 'receiver', same difference really) is machined in one piece and the lower tang does not drop out with the entire 'action' riding on it, then you have a boxlock gun. The hammers would ride on axles that would need to be driven out of the frame for disassembly.

I think. At least that's the way I've understood it. I don't have a Perazzi for examination.

buzz, looking through Lippard's book I find only a couple of clues to your question. On p.22 he writes:

"The MX12 is a refinement of the MT6. It has a single trigger with a fixed coil spring mechanism. Coil springs for low maintenance. Primarily a hunting model, it was offered in a Sporting Clay weight (7 lbs. 12 oz.) configuration in 1991 to present. Sea shell sculpted frame with engraving makes for a beautiful gun. No side ribs offered until late 1992. "C" denoted choke tubes. Flat rib."

Then on p.71 this:

"If you look at a MX12, MX5, and other coil spring models, you will find that the hammers are not rebounding. The firing pins therefore are not rebounding either. They protrude out of the breech face. But, there is an ingenious thing that happens in one of these model Perazzi. Move the top lever, and the bottom hammer is withdrawn. The firing pin, under spring tension, therefore is withdrawn too."

Nothing definitive on action type, but maybe it will help you connect the dots and get an answer. I dunno.

Best, SRH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkmX_lt50pQ

The gun in the video I'd certainly call a trigger plate action.

If the other guns are similar, and just differ in ease of disassembly (ie, you have to drive some pins out or remove fasteners), then I'd still call it a trigger plate action gun if the whole action drops out on the trigger plate.

Thanks SJ and Stan. The Don Rackley video you cited SJ is an MX8 which is clearly a trigger plate mechanism. Don Rackley who sells Perazzi parts told me the MX12 and 2000S guns are classified as boxlocks. Don Currie on the other hand, who is chief NSCA instructor, told me the MX12 and MX2000S are trigger plate too. I�m betting Don Rackley is right and Currie is wrong.

They are certainly nice guns.

That trigger group dropout is slick.

Indeed, the MX8 is an awesome gun. Another nice trigger plate gun is the Beretta 682 which are only around $2k. Unbelievable price point re Beretta.

I'd put my money on Don's assessment of the guns, too. In my experiences with him I have been quite impressed. I can't say that about all Perazzi "specialists" I've dealt with.

SRH