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Equally as important as shot size is using a quality shell. Too many dove shooters go for the cheapest promo loads they can find. Again, for me results in too many fly offs. For doves I shoot lots of Winchester AAs and Remington STS.


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I use hard 8s early season and 7-1/2s later for doves, unless it’s windy. Then it’s 7-1/2 or sometimes 6 on doves, mostly longer shots in the desert. Quail are often 6s. All that is when I’m out of CA, because all game here requires non-tox. Changes the equation and makes me leave 5he .410 and 28 at home.

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RST isn't cheap, but when you figure on the actual costs of a trip afield (gas, food, lodging, licences, other incidentals, etc.) it's pretty trivial. My old English 16 patterns perfectly with about any RST load I've ever tested and...I can get EXACTLY what I want from them. 2 1/2-inch shells in shot size 7 or shot size 5, one ounce (or less) loads, paper cartridges, etc. You name it and they probably load for it. If I had the luxury of shooting or hunting with more frequency, I'd certainly investigate a more cost-effective way to feed my hobby but until then, RST is my go-to source for shells. I even got a mixed case in the mail for Christmas last year.


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Well good thing next week I am in a 150 round SC and trap shot I’ll give those RSTs a workout on clays see if I like them.
I’ll be shooting 71/2 at those doves

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Yeah, but what kind of patterns are those pigeon guns throwing at 30 yards? I’m guessing that “as dense as possible” might be the answer. Probably not improved cylinder or a normal upland game type choke. Not trying to argue but, trying to put things into perspective. And, hurray, dove season is soon approaching, yes?

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Yes, dove season is 28.58 days away. But, who's counting? grin

And yes again, the chokes are tight on pigeon guns, but I shoot tighter-than-average chokes on most gamebirds, too.

Not pointing a finger at anyone in particular, just making a very general statement, but if more hunters would work hard at improving their wingshooting they would find that they could utilize a little tighter choke, and stop depending on open patterns to hit the bird. Hit to miss ratios improve, and the dog doesn't have to chase down near as many crips.

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Doves are always a full choke proposition, even on opening day.

We are skipping opening weekend in Yuma this year. The CA ban on lead ammo has driven far too many CA “hunters” to AZ, and the level of assholery has ratcheted up accordingly. Just not worth the hassle. Planning to go closing weekend, if we go at all.

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For my #1, I already swapped out the barrel for doves; shooting IM, and Full. The little Rizzini, is choked M/F. I am in full agreement, more choke may mean a few misses, However, when your on -very few fly offs and a happy dog to boot.

When I was shooting Way back in the day when on average 500 To 800 rounds a weekend. My shooting coach would have me shooting xfull At Skeet to get my swing and follow through back on track. When shooting registered targets a little more open choke should equate to no lost targets. At least that was his theory.

Strange after 35 years you still remember your coaches words of advice.

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When I go into a shooting slump that's exactly what I do to get my shooting eye back in. Trick is you have to MAKE yourself hold where the gun is shooting. It may take me a box of shells to hit anything, but once the hand/eye coordination is reprogrammed, it all falls into place, uh, usually...Geo

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I really like RST falcon lites in my vintage 12'a and 16's. But I have not bought a box in almost 3 years because of the high shipping costs. Last I checked they wanted $39 a flat to ship to Colorado. That adds $4 per box to shells already going for $11 per box. Academy and other retailers ship for free for orders over $50, and others like Grabagun ship unlimited quantities for $12. Lately I have been getting the Federal Top Gun 7/8 oz 1200 fps lite recoil loads for $65 a flat plus $15 shipping plus or minus. Great shells in my opinion. Anybody have any secrets to getting RST shipping costs down?

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