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Just saw a Fanzoi side lock double rifle on Proxibid - Joe Pyle August 13 auction - lot number 104022. Its chambered in .458 Win. Mag. Not my favorite, and it doesnt clarify whether a Ricard or Josef Fanzoi, but either is exceptional quality. Right now the bidding is only at $2400. If anyone is interested. I have no connection to this auction.
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Interesting Johann Fanzoj DR where he used the old Slovenian name with the i spelling instead of a j. 21 attributes it to him and thanks to Jani we now know that the datecode >>CTM<< is Oktober 1985, when the longarm passed thru the Ferlach proof facility.
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And too note the 2 screws in the floorplate along with the screws at the lower portion of the sides all pointing to an Anson & Deeley Body Action with (false) sideplates.
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If Id just blown the photos up, Id have noticed the side plated Boxlock design. Thanks for the extra research. This one holds no interest for me, but it could be a really good buy for someone. Numerous Johan and Ricard Fanzoi (and Fanzoj) firearms have moved through my hands, and theyve always been of exceptional quality.
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I have to say the gold inlays, especially the caliber marking, is poor.
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I'll have to ask Johann what he was thinking or what the client requested.
Bryant:
Have you handled any drillings or scatterguns?
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Someone posted here for a short time as "Johann Fanzoj". He claimed to be the gun-maker, and he may well have been, but unfortunately he received the well known rude welcome that often happens on our forum and left...Geo
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Interesting George & most correct: Rev: For the Ferlach info, you might contact Johann Fanzoj, the Austrian gunmaker. He used to post here, but I haven't heard from him for a couple of years. He is a very likeable sort and could probably help, as his Family has been making guns for several hundred years.MDC https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubb...=true#Post89304Must have been prior to 2005???? Cheers, Raimey rse
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Rainey, Drillings and shotguns, including a 3-barrel set that was all rife calibers (no shotgun barrel(s) at all) and a gorgeous 9-pin sidelock Ricard Fanzoj shotgun.
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I don't know Ricard right off; was he a brother to Johann or what?
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Ricard was Johans uncle. Johan and I communicated when I had the gun, and he confirmed this.
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Must have been a flurry of bidding in the final hours as it looks to have sold @ $8k U.S. of A. plus fees?
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Well, I haven't gotten to the crux of the matter, but Ricard/Richard is NOT Johann's Uncle. Working on the particulars but Ricard/Richard may have been a long lost cousin of Johann's Father?
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Rainey, I could be recollecting incorrectly - seems to happen more often with age. I communicated with Johan back in 2005 or 2006 about a Ricard Fanzoj I had in the Sidney, NE Cabelas Gun Library. Id have sworn that he identified Ricard as an uncle. I kept those emails in my files at Cabelas, but I left there rather abruptly and had no opportunity to retrieve lots of interesting information. I have no question that Johan identified Ricard as a relative and was familiar with him.
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Bryant: I am working on the details seeing I well know Johann's kids & speak with them often. Neither had any knowledge of Ricard/Richard but they are working on the relationship.
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Still diggin', but seems that Richard Fanzoi's family was from lower Ferlach. He was something like a 2nd cousin to Johann and both Richard and Richard's father expired in the 1960s?
More later.
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Richard Fanzoi (born 1934) was son of Josef Fanzoi (b. 1894). They were from Medborovnica/Unterferlach, now integrated into Ferlach. The son died in the 1960s while the father followed him in the early 1970s. Cheers, Jani
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