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I am not familiar with a term used to describe a couple of lots in the upcoming Holts auction. Referring to barrels as partially struck off Anyone know what that means?
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Removal of the finish (bluing or browning) by filing, emery paper, etc.
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Barrels on hand built guns are `struck off` to achieve optimal handling /balance characteristics also. Sometimes people have poorly weighted barrels improved later also,usually charged by the weight removed.Hth. Sadly this skill is lost on the modern ,machine made lumps which are produced nowadays!!!!!
Last edited by Imperdix; 08/08/20 03:06 AM.
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Means you are going to have to refinish the barrels.
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I think partially means even bubba gave up. Hopefully, it's a great deal?
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It means be very careful and dont but unless you either know what you are doing or have had it very carefully checked .
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Could mean that they are getting rid of pits, or evidence of barrel damage repair.
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My experience has been the barrels either had a dent lifted , then filed and now require finishing or they had external pitting struck off and require finishing. But if it was pitting, be very careful about wall thickness. A thin barreled gun can be sold it the bores are still in proof. If the description also states walls below recommend thickness be very, very cautious.
The question becomes is this gun at the auction because the owner did not feel comfortable shooting it because it was so thin and did he decide sleeving it was not in his budget? Sleeving in the US is a very difficult and expensive option. Dont buy a money pit if you can avoid it. Been there and still doing that.
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I agree with all of the above. I have at times requested and received information such as BWT and a more thorough description from the auction house.
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Having looked at dozens of guns in Holt's auctions with such a description, I can say that the MAJORITY are where bad bents or bulges have been lifted/knocked down and the barrel has been draw filed or abrasive polished to take out all the remaining witness marks. Yes, the barrels will need refinishing and yes, be very careful about wall thickness. The usual rational in these cases is that the gun is pretty much un-shootable, and therefore unsaleable, with the dent/bulge but the vendor doesn't want to cough for a complete re-black/brown so a minimum job is done by their resident gunsmith or the gunsmith submitting the gun for auction.
Last edited by Toby Barclay; 08/12/20 02:48 PM.
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