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Nothing against Merkel or other brands, but once a Parker shooter, always a Parker shooter.





And these are only the entry level D grade.


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Originally Posted By: tut
Someone who knows what they are doing could take a SKB 280 E 20 gauge with 28" barrels, and open up the chokes, and reduce that beavertail by half and have one helluva bird gun for just about anything for short money.


I had the F barrel opened on mine. The Mod barrel was already on the open side of Mod for a 20ga. So now it's just a question of shooting the L barrel (choked .003) first, and I have pretty much the equivalent of skeet 1 & 2. But with the Merkel 20 and the more recently acquired vintage Ugartechea sidelock, I think the SKB is likely to find a new home before long. Otherwise it will mostly gather dust, and it's too good a gun for that.

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Originally Posted By: BrentD
There are a couple model 8 on gunbroker right now I believe. But probably 12s.

They are considerably cheaper than an SKB 280 which would still need some doctoring to catch up to the Merkel. All you really get for that extra money would be ejectors and a really ugly single trigger.


Ugly single trigger? It's a single trigger that's pretty darned reliable. Inertia rather than mechanical. But of all the Ithaca SKB's I've owned, I can't recall any trigger issues. If you want those, go talk to the Turks.

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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
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There are a couple model 8 on gunbroker right now I believe. But probably 12s.

They are considerably cheaper than an SKB 280 which would still need some doctoring to catch up to the Merkel. All you really get for that extra money would be ejectors and a really ugly single trigger.


Ugly single trigger? It's a single trigger that's pretty darned reliable. Inertia rather than mechanical. But of all the Ithaca SKB's I've owned, I can't recall any trigger issues. If you want those, go talk to the Turks.


I never said unreliable for a reason, Larry. It does work, but damm, it is ugly; not to mention frigid even smile. if it was blued, it would still be hideous but less obvious. The silvered ones on the 100s and the gold on the 200s are what they are, and you know what they say about life span and ugly guns.

That said, I still have 2 SKBs to go with my Merkel and many other guns as well. So, the darn guns are worth owning in my opinion, but they have their limitations. They are no more reliable than a Merkel M8 nor a spec more reliable either. The Merk has it all over them for looks and warmth while being on par for reliability and about the same money (as the 100s - 280s are a lot more and an M8). At least that's mine opinion.

crs - that Parker looks anything but entry level (like an SKB 100 or M8). That's as fine a Parker as I've seen. Not a big Parker fan here, but I could learn to like that one, a lot. I suspect I would have to trade in both my SKBs and the Merkel to get one, however.


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Except that it's damnably hard to fine a Merkel 8 in sub gauge. Whereas sub gauge Ithaca/SKB's are always available. Life, even with an ugly gun is, well, short!
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Chief, there is a lot of truth in that lately, and thus, I own two SKB 20s. At least until I find just the right 16, I think


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Hey Brent, '20 MN grouse report is out. Not good news according to the MNDNR. This runs counter to boots on the ground, (anecdotal) reports from the nortland. We'll see, can't wait, I'll be struggling along with a Ithaca/SKB 100 in 20, sold that Miroku!

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If I go grousing this year, it will probably be with an SKB 100 in 20g also. Can't shoot what ya ain't got I guess.

Sorry to hear the counts are down. We are hearing good anecdotal reports for pheasants hear in Iowa, though the derecho may have hammered them. The official counts for the birds is ongoing now and should be ready in early September. But good or bad, we will be out there, unless CV19 gets me first.


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Its an O/U but its About the nicest looking and handling 16 gauge I have ever owned and shot. Wood carving done by Paul Merkel.


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
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Originally Posted By: BrentD
There are a couple model 8 on gunbroker right now I believe. But probably 12s.

They are considerably cheaper than an SKB 280 which would still need some doctoring to catch up to the Merkel. All you really get for that extra money would be ejectors and a really ugly single trigger.


Ugly single trigger? It's a single trigger that's pretty darned reliable. Inertia rather than mechanical. But of all the Ithaca SKB's I've owned, I can't recall any trigger issues. If you want those, go talk to the Turks.


I never said unreliable for a reason, Larry. It does work, but damm, it is ugly; not to mention frigid even smile. if it was blued, it would still be hideous but less obvious. The silvered ones on the 100s and the gold on the 200s are what they are, and you know what they say about life span and ugly guns.

That said, I still have 2 SKBs to go with my Merkel and many other guns as well. So, the darn guns are worth owning in my opinion, but they have their limitations. They are no more reliable than a Merkel M8 nor a spec more reliable either. The Merk has it all over them for looks and warmth while being on par for reliability and about the same money (as the 100s - 280s are a lot more and an M8). At least that's mine opinion.

crs - that Parker looks anything but entry level (like an SKB 100 or M8). That's as fine a Parker as I've seen. Not a big Parker fan here, but I could learn to like that one, a lot. I suspect I would have to trade in both my SKBs and the Merkel to get one, however.

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