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#5774 10/15/06 11:12 PM
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I think you're right about the tails they look to similar and short to be turkeys. Nice photos I'd love to see the shooting stick.

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MP. Excellent Photos of the Rifle Shooters from the Past.In 1966 & 1967 I spent time with Tom Shellhamer, Dowagiac, Mich. at his Workshop. I chequered a rifle stock for him. It had to be'London Style' Standard Points Patt.Flat-Top.He gave me a Full-Length French Walnut Stock-Blank,with 'Fiddle-Back' Figure.It has a date on it of 1930 & Shellhamer's name written on it.When John Amber saw it he wanted me to stock one of his Creedmoore Rifles with it.I still have it in my'Collection' of'Olde Stuff'Years ago I stocked 2 Single-Shots and used Orig.New A O Niedner Steel Butt-Plates.I had Arnold Grieble Engrave a monogram & a date on one of them.One was a Winchester Hi-Wall with a Pope Barrel. As you said, MP,not too many Folks know these names from the 'Past'. C/C....dt

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David,

An interesting story, not many folks nowadays remember Tom Shelhamer. After Tom died his daughter Alice stayed in the house and when she passed on she left the house and property to friend who as a young man mowed their lawn. Tom kept a file on every stock he made and the new owner promised to archive and make these files available to the public, I’m keeping my fingers crossed.

Do you sign your stocks and if so how?



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[/qb][/QUOTE]Niedner removed the cocking cams from the Borchardt and made a new breechblock. In order to install the double-set-triggers the safety had to be removed. This is fine on a target rifle but not one used in the field. It’s a little hard to explain but the firing pin is inside of the striker and very light weight, I have no way to measure the lock time but it is very FAST and safe to carry with a loaded chamber. [/QB][/QUOTE]


Michael:

I see how that could be done and now, after your explaination, why. That is a very creative solution and obviously well done. I always tend to think of such rifles as target rifles and have not considered the dificulties involved with having a safety on a DST conversion. This solution would be difficult to improve on.

You have an exceptional rifle with a most interesting history. Thanks!

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“You have an exceptional rifle with a most interesting history. Thanks!”

Glenn, Thank-you, many firearms had an interesting history and it’s very satisfying when I can put it all together. I’ll add that I had a thick file on this rifle long before I became the caretaker of it. Normally I find an interesting firearm then try to do the research. When it surfaced I jumped.

Although not well known Zischang also made a safety when he installed DST’s on a Borchardt hunting rifle. His was incorporated into the forward part of the trigger guard. One of these rifles resides with a member here and shows typical superb Zischang workmanship.


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WhI would really like to examine the double set trigger as well...
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Wouldn't we all. Then we would pay you vast sums to install them in our Borchardts.....

(exactly zero sarcasm there. A bunch of us would kill for those triggers).

Brent
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Gosh, this sounds like my big chance to be rich! :rolleyes:

I have a Borchardt action that I am going to build into an international rules Long Range rifle and am considering a DST conversion. I have (incomplete) drawings of the Zischang trigger and one designed by Zika. Both seem far more complicated than necessary and an absolute nightmare to build and set up properly. I am expecting copies of yet another design to arrive soon, and I have an idea of my own that I am toying with.

We shall see. The one man I know of that built a set swears he will never do so again. There is a reason no one is offering them.

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Wonder what year shooters learned 'not' to rest their barrels on anything ?

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Glenn,
I'm interested in your alternatives. I've dreamed up a few myself - not that I have a single qualification necessary for executing them.

Most folks that have built these triggers are swearing off them forever. But I remain hopeful nonetheless.

You might check with Al Sledge as well.

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Wonder what year shooters learned 'not' to rest their barrels on anything ?
It’s a common misconception that all rifles should not be rested on the barrel. I have been shooting single-shot rifles in general and Schuetzen rifle in particular for over thirty-five years and shoot them all “off the barrel”.




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