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#578686 08/25/20 06:13 PM
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Looking back, I now think that I grew up in "prime time" for most hunting, for the last 75 years. We had almost endless places to hunt, everything from rabbits, squirrels, quail, dove, duck and geese. Deer were in fair numbers but no where near today's pestilent numbers and turkeys were in other parts of the state. Plus seasons were long and limits were generous. You could hunt almost anywhere you wanted and asking and getting permission was never a issue. I use to run into rabbit hunters and would exchange good "rabbit locations" for places they had found coveys of quail. Rabbits were more a target of opportunity, than a object of desire and I was always afraid shooting too many would teach the pointer they were fair game and encourage them to run them instead of finding quail.

I hope my kids will not look back on these days and think they too grew up in prime times, like I do now. I remember my grandfathers talking about taking 25 ducks, in a morning hunt, and saying that the legal 7-10 duck limits of my youth was hardly worth going for. Perhaps every generation thinks they had the best of times hunting. Perhaps our hunting is in steep decline because too many places I hunted in my youth now have houses sitting on them.

Deer, turkeys and a slightly increased Dove limit are the only improvements in hunting from my youth. Quail are near extinction levels, ducks are down, geese are down, pheasant are almost gone in most places I hunt. Release and harvest are more what people seem to enjoy than I want to experience. I would rather have a Black Duck give me four swing passes ,just out of range and then fly off for no reason than ten dumb released Mallards, fly right to my decoys, or a dozen released pheasants get up all of ten feet in front of the dog.

Did you grow up in "prime time" or are you as older than that? Or is this your prime time?

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I was in the right places at the right times
1960-1967 South Eastern Wisconsin Kettle Moraine area (lots of everything)

1967 to 1971 North Louisiana (Ruston, Louisiana Tech Univ) (lots of everything) Phil Robertson of Duck Commander fame was our Quarterback.

1971 to 1975 Great Falls Montana (hunters heaven)

1976 to 1978 Central Missouri (Warrensberg) Lots of everything

1978 to 1979 Central Turkey, lived one block from the National Skeet Shooting Champion who spoke English and we hunted the entire country LOTS of quail !!

1979 to 1984 Albuquerque New Mexico Great everything, I was in shape for the scaled quail smile

1984 to present. Good if you have places to hunt. Lots of deer and used to have quail and pheasants, not so much now. Lots of doves and geese and sandhill crane. At 71 my legs are starting to not like upland hunting so much.

Mike

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I grew up or came up anyway in a crappy time to hunt. I started duck hunting when numbers were worse than now due to a long drought and the first year for mandated steel shot. Steel shot sucks now but it is way better than it was in 1992.
That said I love getting out and I also love reading old sporting books and magazines from the turn of the last century and reading about how it was.
That said, I also appreciate rock n roll, modern medicine and short dresses so now is OK too......

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Originally Posted By: Lawrence Kotchek
I grew up or came up anyway in a crappy time to hunt. I started duck hunting when numbers were worse than now due to a long drought and the first year for mandated steel shot. Steel shot sucks now but it is way better than it was in 1992.
That said I love getting out and I also love reading old sporting books and magazines from the turn of the last century and reading about how it was.
That said, I also appreciate rock n roll, modern medicine and short dresses so now is OK too......


I like this guy...

KY Jon #578699 08/25/20 07:59 PM
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Started hunting rabbits & bobwhite in central MO. Didn't need a dog to get limits. Moved to different area, not a lot of quail,but a good deer population to bow hunt. Then started travelling for quail, pheasant & grouse.
Now just me,old dog & great memories.
Agree, lived in the best times.

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Still prime time in Maine, not going to say where in Maine, still very wild and hunt covers are literally a walk out the back door. Still plenty of grouse (going to be a good year), geese, ducks and woodcock!

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I live in Ruston and the ducks stay in AR now. I did talk to a young guy a few weeks ago and he said he shot seventy odd ducks in the Monroe area last year. Perhaps at 79 I am not as mad at them and everything hurts after a rough hunt.
bill

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I am 79 and back in 50s,60s,70s Georgia had the bobwhites and i got my share! Now at my age if we had enough to hunt would still hunt but seldom shoot a bird. Bobby

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KY Jon #578710 08/25/20 08:44 PM
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Im 62 years old and hunt really only Ruffed Grouse and Bobwhite Quail. Ive had some great hunts for both, but in this day and age, more mediocre hunts than great, and some, just downright poor. The hunting I do is feast or famine, more of the latter. Ive had 50+ grouse flush days and 35+ quail covey/day years, but those are the exception. Most are less. Its more about just getting out for me now, and on those great years, I let oodles of birds just fly away. Im not much of a killer at this stage in my life.... But, I still go hoping for more feast than famine, but it is what it is, and its all good.


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Not many quail left here. Numbers of big ducks are not here anymore.

Dove numbers are great. Woodcock numbers last season were over the top. Turkey numbers are way higher than they were for decades. If you are a deer hunting enthusiast you are living in the golden years.

So, it's all according to what you want to hunt around here. I work hard at hunting. I scout doves and ducks hard, and am willing to drive to wherever the numbers are to hunt with good prospects.

Grumpy old men sit around and complain that "It shore ain't like it used to be". Others who work hard at their sport have great successes. Kinda reminds me of the saying that goes something like .......... "It ain't what it used to be .......... it never was."

I bemoan the loss of our beloved wild bobwhites. But, some bird hunters refuse to roll over and die. They teach their dogs to find and point woodcock, and hunt on. I am privileged to hunt with a couple of those diehards.

SRH

Edited to add: No intention of implying that anyone in particular here is a grumpy old man. blush

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