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Enjoyed reading this post from the beginning. Would agree that there are more options for 16 gauge guns today than in 2012. I shoot 16s and enjoy them. Also reload for clay shooting. I am sometimes encouraged to buy a dedicated sporting clays gun but so far I really enjoy shooting my 16s at the range and in the field. I am not convinced there is an ideal gauge, rather I like to think we have been blessed with craftspeople over time that have made guns in every gauge that are the pinnacle of craftsmanship and perfectly suited for their intended purpose.
Shot doves with my son yesterday. The '48 Merkel was paired with some relatively old ammo. The gun/ammo worked well together. Nice change of pace to see those paper hulls!


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Originally Posted By: BrentD

That's a beautiful gun, Mark. Are those colors original or restored? Love to see one of those "in the flesh".


I believe they have been restored. I like how subdued they are. I'm working on the stock now, hope to have it done by mid October.

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Originally Posted By: Mark Larson
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That's a beautiful gun, Mark. Are those colors original or restored? Love to see one of those "in the flesh".


I believe they have been restored. I like how subdued they are. I'm working on the stock now, hope to have it done by mid October.


I like it for the same reason, that's why I was wondering. If they have been restored, it sure would be nice to know who did it.

A mighty handsome gun to be sure.


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If 16s are becoming more popular, then they must be appreciating in terms of value. Are they approaching 20 bore values, or maybe even more since 16s are generally more scarce and rare?


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Originally Posted By: buzz
If 16s are becoming more popular, then they must be appreciating in terms of value. Are they approaching 20 bore values, or maybe even more since 16s are generally more scarce and rare?

The way it's been for sometime is that they are sold somewhere between 12 and 20 ga. prices condition being equivalent. Gil

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Originally Posted By: GLS
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If 16s are becoming more popular, then they must be appreciating in terms of value. Are they approaching 20 bore values, or maybe even more since 16s are generally more scarce and rare?

The way it's been for sometime is that they are sold somewhere between 12 and 20 ga. prices condition being equivalent. Gil


That does not seem to have changed. I'm skulking around looking for one. Your estimate seems spot on.


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Except for clouds of skeeters, I had a nice opening day walk through my 43 ac mid-grass prairie restoration plot. Hard to see or hear grouse with them screeching in my hearing aids while wiping them off my face. A light rain earlier and gentle breeze provided perfect scenting conditions for my GWP [img:center]http://[/img] Gus who I could see only when in close. He flushed six sharptails that I might have shot at if seen in time plus two singles, but they might have been pheasant hens. At least I made the birds a bit warier for those that will hunt later.

Pic is my old Sauer 16, a $35 WWII bringback from Cpl. Zimmermann with his bag of Lugers, Walthers PPKs and P38s plus small items and some nice doubles. [img:center]http://[/img]

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Gene Hill, in his Shotgunners Notebook of 30 years ago, set out to describe the ideal upland gun. After listing his choices for physical and field properties, he concludes with aesthetics. And what would we have? That almost-forgotten darling of a few generations past: the 16-gauge.

Most discussions of the very capable16b (this one included) have plenty of objective comparisons with 20s and 12s. What seems to set the 16 apart, though, and fuel its continuing life are the subjectives. Some of these are easily described. Others are more difficult. But all, together, are experienced and enjoyed whether recognized or not. And the result? The 16 lives on quite well. And I think it will continue to.

(The 600-700 views a day here since this thread was revived also seems to reflect strong interest in the gauge.)

(I guess I should mention that I leave tomorrow for a road trip across the Midwest which includes a stop to pick up a new 113 year old SxS. And, yes, its a 16.)


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He also added the caveat that his 16 bore Greener with 24" barrels was not his Vade mecum for upland accurate shooting- maybe in the thick nasty tangles that woodcock seem to prefer--RWTF


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