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Daryl just sent an image of a Red Head TruSport for Edw. K. Tryon, Philadelphia
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The J.R. Caldwell pad; assignor to the Seamless Rubber Co., New Haven, CT appears to be the NOSHOC carrying the same patent date https://patents.google.com/patent/US1418532
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As your references lean towards Trap grade guns I'd like to note Frank Morgan's pad. He made the adjustable "Morgan Pad" before WWII and it is still in production. I have purchased a number of old trap guns that sported his pad, one was on a Remington FE! Not real old but quite an addition, I saw them used for many years on the trap line.
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This is the earliest ad I've found for the Morgan pad Mike; from January 16, 1932 "Sportsmen' Review" Morgan Adjustable Recoil Pad, 1932 Pat. No. 2,066,218 to W. J. Morgan issued Dec. 29, 1936 permits adjustment simultaneously both horizontally and vertically. https://patents.google.com/patent/US1847777A/en and the Jenkins, made about 1930-1955. R.C. "Rock" Jenkins was President of the ATA, and the brothers had the Jenkins Brothers Gun Club, in Orleans, IN.
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The Jostam story starts with another trap shooter, J.S. Day of Midland, TX. I have not found the original Oct. 29, 1914 Patent No. 1,123,180 which was acquired by Jostam. I also couldn't find evidence that he actually manufactured a pad. May 30, 1908 is the first mention in Sporting Life, using Peters shells as an amateur https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/32807/rec/6 July 2, 1910 GAH at Chicago High Amateur Average https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/29552/rec/11 https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/29559/rec/11 Won the 1910 Amateur Trap Shooting Average .9728 https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/28806/rec/17 https://books.google.com/books?id=m0kcAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA312&lpg https://books.google.com/books?id=m0kcAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA432&lpg https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/27746/rec/25 He was a Professional Representative for Peters Cartridge Co. starting in 1911 August 24, 1912 in Cincinnati, Ohio he won the "E.C." Cup, emblematic of the World's Championship at Targets (100 singles, 50 expert rules and 25 pairs) https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/26949/rec/61 https://books.google.com/books?id=nUkcAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA277 Then at the 1914 GAH he won again, then lost to Homer Clark https://books.google.com/books?id=hkkcAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA375J.S. Day vs. W.R. Crosby, won by Mr. Day. Homer Clark (Marlin), as challenger, 182x200 then beat J. S. Day 181x200.
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I have the literal question possibly raised by eightbore above......how does one mount a pad without leaving holes in it from the screws?
I recently came across an old RedHead NIB pad at a gunshow and have a shortened 1940s Browning A5 I'd like to add it to.
While I seen plenty of photos of mounted pads, they rarely show any screw holes from attaching the pad to the stock.
Removed pads (as with some samples above) always show screw holes and sometimes the removed screws as well.
What simple idea am I missing here?
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Traditionally, the way to have hidden screw holes is to pierce the face of the pad, at each hole, with something like a slender, pointed Xacto blade. The screw and the screwdriver blade are coated with a thin, clear oil, like Hoppes, which prevents scrubbing of the pad face. The screw is carefully inserted, on the screwdriver, into the cut. It enters the screw hole and is carefully tightened down, then the screwdriver is carefully withdrawn.
Done this way the little cut closes itself and is virtually invisible.
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William Knight in Cicero, IL assigned to the Roth Rubber Co. 1-26-32 https://patents.google.com/patent/US1842528A/en The patent # is on the Jostam No Kick ComingMaybe Roth Rubber Co. was the actual manufacturer for the Jostam pads? Another 5-31-32 by Roth Rubber Co. https://patents.google.com/patent/US1861234A/en The old plant in Cicero is an Asbestos Mesothelioma Exposure Site
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I've found a few of those over the years. Everyone I've encountered has been hard as the proverbial rock and as such has been a waste of both my resources and a gunsmiths time. I've had much better luck with other Jostam Pads.
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The curved leather covered Jostam that James-l pictured is a beautiful pad that I have not seen before. I have one of those Jostam "No Kick Coming" that Drew pictured. It appears to be one piece rubber with no base. I have one unused that I would like to use but don't know how to mount it. It is also one good looking pad. I think we have all had old Grieb pads on guns and thought they were Silver pads. Some pads do not have the rubber bonded to a hard plastic base for attaching to the stock with screws. This type of pad is glued on to the wood. I would mask the wood and finish carefully if attempting to install one on a finished stock. Recommendations for a good pad adhesive can be found in this thread: https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubb...3666#Post543666
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