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#5804 10/18/06 12:35 AM
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Glenn,

Is your book a reprint, that picture is not in my copy? Is it the same picture with the names written under them?


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My Esteemed Mr. Petrov,[isn't old-fashioned stuff fun? ;~`) ]

Enjoy the pics and history. Almost like a time machine, for one's memories of being an awed youngster haunting those quiet library shelves, filled with books of another and nearly forgotten era.

Those classic single shots certainly set an American standard for elegance and accuracy. I remember Warren Page's 1970's book on benchrest riflery. Somewhere in it he mentions that some of the standards set with those early guns and shooters, were not bettered or equalled by modern goods until well after WW2. Not a footnotable contribution, there, but just a general observation.

I'd be interested sometime in seeing an article with good photos or drawings of Niedner's sticks. While there are perfectly adequate versions of that idea [MTM, etc.] over-the-counter available, it might be interesting to make a replica for personal enjoyment. Not that I'm not already some longrifles, and three months of work behind, already this fall. ;~`)

Anyway, it surely has been fun seeing this discussion continue. I'd suspect that folks who admire the doublegun also find a lot to admire in elegant single-shots. Surely has been my case, tho mildly, from rehabbing Steven's Favorites as a young man, to playing around with assorted oddball Euro pieces before they became "collectible".

Definitely need another book on the subject!! LOL.

John


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Michael:

The copy of the Roberts book I have is softbound, published by Wolfe in 1987 and this is the only publication date listed.

The photo is on page 256 and is, as near as I can tell, the same photo, not a similar one. Likely a copy. The names of the gentlemen are written on the photo at the feet of each man, but only the last name, no initials or titles. It appears to be in the same hand as what is written on your photo. Also the "Shushan, N.Y. 1911" is absent from this copy.

The photo is credited: Courtesy of Dave Wolfe


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Mr. JohnM

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This is by far the best tag line I have ever read. I cannot help but think you would be grand company, sir.


My thanks to all for tolerating this off topic thread. It is most interesting and entertaining.

Respectfully,

Glenn



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John,

I never left the library shelves, difference now it’s my library. I still live in the past with these folks, now all gone.

One pleasure I get is sitting down at the local range with one of the OLD single-shot schuetzen rifles and exposing new people to how-it-was. Most just can’t believe how well these old rifles can shoot. It takes a pretty good modern rifle today that you can cover ten shots at 100 yards with a dime.

If you ever want to build a Niedner style shooting stick, let me know and I’ll try to help. I have located several of these over the years but once I explain to the owner what he has they don’t turn loose of them. I have two scope sticks but not a shooting one. It would be a hard sell to an editor for an article on just sticks but I have a Varmint rifle article that I might include this info in. Problem is I have get back to work and finish off several articles that I dropped for summer shooting.






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Glenn,

Thanks, I’ve never seen a reprint, this photo seems to get around, interesting.


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Glenn,

Here are some pictures of the Zischang triggers, a couple have too much glare, sorry about that. Hope it helps.






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Glenn,

Back to the top, I wanted to make sure you saw these pictures, bad as they are. MP


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Michael - - Thanks for the treat. Great stuff.

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Michael:

I just found the pictures. Thanks!!!

After studying them I finally grasp how the trigger actually works. It all makes sense now. It would be a serious undertaking, but they are buildable. It would be a most interesting project.

I have saved the pictures and will be refering to them. It is my intention to build the rifle next winter. Thanks again.

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Glenn



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