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I have had tinnitus for almost 20 years. documented with VA due to a lot of loud noises in Afghanistan. and subsequent trips there and Iraq compounded it, even with hearing protection, it got worse because you didnt always have it have it. My las t tour we had headsets for our radios and that protected us some.
I cant hear shit when there is any background noise. I have to look directly at you when you talk and often cup my hand over my ear to help. Sleep sucks. Mine gets so loud I cant sleep. it ebbs and flows. never stops, never goes away. I'm stuck with it.
Now I shoot rifles and pistols with suppressors whenever possible . Of course wingshooting is not possible with suppressor
you can never get it back, hearing loss like that is permanent. nd I am stubborn and refuse to wear hearing aides even though the VA will provide.


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Thanks everybody, and especially Dr. Drew. Yes, ibuprofen does seem to aggravate things and... since finding decent GF beer (after lots of years without) I've noticed that as well. Since I'm not a veteran, Costco will likely get a visit from me, just to keep my immediate family happy (repeating one's self does likely get a bit old after a while). Getting older is clearly not for sissies.

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I have finally impressed upon my wife that I ask yes or no questions.

I want the answer first and the supporting data second.

So we do well when we follow those tenants.

Mike

p.s. for shotgun shooting (wing shooting) I use Peltor Tactcal 300 hearing protection. The 500s have blue tooth capability.

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I'm sitting here listening to my ears ring as I type.
Chronic tinnitus.
It is what it is, nerves searching for signal.

I wear Pro-Ears Predator Gold earmuffs at all times in the field or on the range.
They amplify up to 8x, and sides are independently adjustable.

25db reduction, clipping over 85db, millisecond clipping response, and sub-second cycle times.

You can hear the bell stop 5 seconds before the Astro chimes at 200 yards.

There was a time today when the A-10's were too loud as they circled, but, I turned the earmuffs off, and it turns out it wasn't the muffs. LOL

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My late father suffered from tinnitus (most likely a combination of the Army and shooting skeet for years without hearing protection). It was maddening for him, and when he bought the latest and greatest hearing aids, it only frustrated him more. Eventually, for target shooting, he settled on the custom plugs (like a 29 or 30 NR) with a pull tab on one, so that he could quickly pop it out and talk to whomever he was shooting with when he needed to. That seemed to work very well.


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Lloyd, I don’t suppose you recently started taking Lasix? I’ve had tinnitus since I started taking it, and it is listed as one of the common side effects. If you’ve changed or started taking anything new, you might check the listed side effects - tinnitus is sometimes drug related.

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When I left the Army, a friend insisted I file a VA claim for my high frequency hearing loss. I said I could live with it, but he browbeat me into applying. He really was a good friend, because applying before leaving saved me a lot of trouble over the years in justifying the claim. In those days, we went to the rifle range and were not even issued ear plugs ( cigarette filters work pretty well and we had them in C rations at least).
By the time I retired from the Corps of Engineers, they required wearing of ear muffs( maybe + plugs) to mow grass or drive a Humvee, much less operate a dozer.
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Here is an interesting TED Talk on the science of hearing (and hearing loss).

https://www.ted.com/talks/jim_hudspeth_the_beautiful_mysterious_science_of_how_you_hear

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This month's Scientific American has an article on the clinical trial mentioned by Drew. They might be on to something.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...g-in-the-ears1/

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I've had tinnitus for years; VA diagnosed it as related to Vietnam and being a radio operator and gives me 10%. The bad is that it's always there though not overwhelming and is not too difficult to live with. The good thing is I can check my heart rate without a device or putting finger on artery. It does not effect the hearing. Apparently there are many varieties.

Don't tell VA but I'm not at all sure it comes from Vietnam...twin brother who served there at the same time, was a special force radio operator (11B4S) like me, was in as many firefights though not as many helicopter inserts, doesn't have it. Someday they'll get a handle on it. I don't feel guilty taking the 10% because they denied clear Agent Orange stuff....the jungle west of Ben Het to the tri-border area and over into Laos to the junction of highway 110 and 96 was a mercury induced waste-land.

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