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If that gun letters with Cody and is indeed a Winchester built and engraved .410, its well worth $20k as a collector, really a lot more, imho. Im guessing no letter. Id definitely check with Cody before jumping in...

Respectfully disagree, Buzz. The Globalists's Reset via Wuhan virus has gotten it's way with fine guns, among many other collectable items, and has changed "collectors" mindsets bigtime. Cody letter or whoever's letter regarding whatever gun won't make much difference now. Going forward, I seriously doubt the fine gun market will be what it once was. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

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This has not been my experience during the Covid crisis, business has been brisk. I am optimistic myself.


How many $35,000 guns have you sold?

How many $20,000 guns?


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Or, more importantly, bought?
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I guess John and Ted have the pulse of the market, being big players in it, eh?


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I've been through about 200 fine doubles in the past 40 years, Brent. Superposeds of all persuasions, Parkers, Foxes, Smiths, some English stuff here and there. All from roughly $2,000 to to the mid teens$. Through my close relationship with Steve Barnett, I've been privileged to keep up with some pretty fantastic stuff for the past 10-15 years.

But I'm sure your conspicuous consumption is far more worthy of judgment on the market than my pittance of experience.
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Originally Posted By: BrentD
I guess John and Ted have the pulse of the market, being big players in it, eh?


The last big dollar gun I sold as an importer was $10K. It was a very nice gun, but, I didnt buy it. It wasnt very many years later, that the same gun was $30K, and I knew then that I was seeing a self fulfilling prophecy.

You cant buy that gun, today. You will never be able to buy it, new, again.

So it goes. John has astutely noted the same thing, in a bit different, but, related market.

I was never a big player in the market, true enough, but what I know about it came from honest work in the market, and not from an internet bulletin board I was reading, while I was in Iowa.

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Two over 20k in the last six months and one currently being negotiated in the 35k range. About as much as my inventory allows.


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Originally Posted By: SKB
Two over 20k in the last six months and one currently being negotiated in the 35k range. About as much as my inventory allows.


Details on these please, if you don't mind Steve. Not judging, just asking. Thanks.
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Originally Posted By: John Roberts
A 7 lb. 6 oz. 410 is a placement gun as far as hunting goes, not one to be toted afield all day. With skeet chokes, what's it good for but a round of skeet?
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I had a friend that had 2 two barrel set CSMC 21s, one in 410 and the other in 28 ga. Both were in the mid 7lb range. He successfully hunted upland prolifically with both. If a man can carry a 12ga in the same weight, he can carry a 410 as well. But it isn't my choice for a hunting gun.

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Two over 20k in the last six months and one currently being negotiated in the 35k range. About as much as my inventory allows.


Details on these please, if you don't mind Steve. Not judging, just asking. Thanks.
JR


Both were listed here but sold on another forum. Piotti Boss pattern over under pigeon gun and Alex Henry 10 bore rifle. In negotiations on a Holland double rifle. Good guns bring real money in my experience.


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I've got a really nice photo of Judy and I with Steve from three years ago. I was holding this gun:
https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/purdey-...-12-gauge-gauge

I toyed with the idea of trying to work a deal on it, but I regained my senses. It's still there @ $53,500...
JR
(hopefully Stan will post the photo later today.Thanks Stan)

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