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MKB,
The 173 grain 7mm bullet I mentioned for both the 7x57R and 7x65R is the HMK( H Jacket, copper covered hollow point) It is a great bullet, like a predecessor of the partition bullet, but with the partition made by the jacket being folded in on itself. The front fragments, back to the "H" and the rear penetrates. You almost always get an exit. I tried the 162gr TIG ( Torpedo Ideal Bullet) with the 2 part core. It was way too violent for me, it blew up the shoulder on my Gams. A heavy Nosler partition might work for you. I use the 60 gr. partition bullet in my 5.6x50R and 85 gr partition in a little 6mm wildcat( shortened 222 case) and they work great. Where were you stationed in Germany? I live about 22 miles north of Auburn/Opelika on Highway US 431.
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Good info! Now, if anyone reloads shotshells, have they found any velocity preferences for slugs, and of course that will have to be broken down into type and weight.

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I was at the MEDEVAC unit in Landstul. Across the autoban and up the mountain from Raimstine.

You kind of have to take what you can find in RWS I guess. I ordered what they had that looked like it might work. For the 7x65R I have some "H-Mantel" comming. Sound like what you are talking about. And for the 7x57R I have "KS" tipped shells comming. If they will group I'll go shoot a couple of cull does and see how they do.

But that TIG sounds like what I am looking for....sounds like an SST. Im starting to regret having sold all my reloading stuff ast year.

Im just west of Enterprise but moving to Eufaula area soon.

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So you are a Big Boll Weevil fan?

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MKB,
Yes, the "H Mantel" is the bullet I was describing. Mantel means "coat" in German, but it refers to the "jacket", as we would call it. The "KS" bullet is the "Kegel Spitz"( cone point)bullet. I don't have any personal experience with the "KS", but a friend used it in his 6.5x57 and his photographs of a REH seemed to show it to be a pretty violent bullet also. There are two weights of "KS" bullets, 8.0 gram( 123.5 grains) and 10.5 grams( 162 grains).I would expect the 8.0 gram KS to impact high and right, making it hard to find a sighting satisfactory for both the 7x57R and 22 Hornet. The 10.5 grain should be easier. The "TIG" and "TUG" are old Brenneke names, and I think the patent has run out and RWS makes the same basic bullets under different names now. I have some 7mm 10.5 gram TIG bullets, from an attempt to buy some 11.2 gram TIGs to try ang the translation got mixed up. They are bullets only and are pretty expensive( that is why I still have them). I know where Landstuhl is I had to go to Ramstein several times for R&G Club Executive council meetings, when the CG was our President. I was in Wurerzburg, in Bavaria. Eufaula is just down US 431 from where I live. You might check with "T&G German Gun Imports" (www.german-gun-imports.com, or www.save-the-fine-guns.com) for ammo. They stock S&B but can also get RWS( with a long lead time). With the covid19, shipments seem to be delayed right now though.
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In my Joseph Hambrusch 7x65r combination I get goid groups with RWS HIT factory ammo - 140 gn copper bullet. I also use 51.5gn of IMR 4831 under a Hornady 139gn softpoint and 50gn of IMR 4350 under the 173 gn H- Mantle.

All shoot well under 1” groups, bit barrel has to be cool and allowed to cool between shots.

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I was shooting some 9,3X62 Express GECO 16,5 grammes today & too they were most accurate. I was pleasantly surprised.


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My drilling 7x57R really likes the PPV 139 gr SP, S&B 173's double the size of the group which would still be adequate.

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My BRNO combo gun 12ga/5.6x52R much prefers 55gr Buffalo Arms .228 bullets over the S&B 70gr again about half the size group.
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