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Nice sporters, I like the details and execution of the top rifle. Thanks for showing them.
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That's a lovely pair of rifles Dan. Thanks for sharing them with us.
Thaine
It ain't ignorance that does the most damage, it's knowing so derned much that ain't so! J. Billings
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Is it some sort of optical / photo reproduction or my strange eyesight or does the barrel on the top rifle appear to be bent?
And I have a hard time with the "made using the rifle that was issued to him" part of the story. The odds are better than playing the lottery, but in the same ballpark.
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It must be the camera angle as the barrel is perfectly straight, I just looked thru the bore.
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Depending whose opinion you believe, that Griffin & Howe was engraved either by Rudolph Kornbrath or Hjalmar Swensen. I have one with similar engraving. http://zincavage.org/GriffinHowe30-06.html
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The stippling on the bolt looks very much like John Oberlies' work. I can't tell which rifle has the stippled bolt. I have no further opinion until I know whether the gun with the stippled bolt is the engraved gun. An Oberlies gun with engraving is fairly uncommon. Any ideas?
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The bolt finish is done by a scraping process, but I've never seen a contemporary example of this work. How is it done, and wht is it no longer used?
Bill Ferguson
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I have only seen it used in John Oberlies guns. I don't know anyone who knows how he did it.
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The bolt treatment is on the engraved gun but it also looks a lot like what Niedner did. I thought Oberlies also stippled the bolt knob. I need to compare the bolt treatments on Niedner and Oberlie.
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Yup, John Oberlies stippled the bolt knobs and did the scraping treatment on the bolt, down to the knob. One Oberlies gun is scraped all the way to the knob and the knob is not treated to either stippling or scraping. It looks like he just forgot. His stippling is as elegant as the scraping treatment. I don't have any Niedner guns to compare.
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