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I know on this forum there are a few that collect or know about L.C. Smiths. I am trying to find out at what serial number did the hammerless Syracuse L.C. Smith's stop using the extra sear spring. I have the first Syracuse L.C. Smith hammerless gun made in August 1886, serial number 16000 Quality 2, 10 gauge 32" barrels made on the medium frame.

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In my records the next serial number I have is 16023 Quality 4 10 gauge but no other information, same with s/n 16036
Many of these serial numbers were from auction sites and they do not usually take the locks off. If they knew what to look for they would see another screw post on the outside of the lock, but many can't tell the difference.

I would appreciate any information, thanks.


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Too early for other frame sizes except R-- when the 16 and then the 20 gauges came out, the FW(E) frames were adopted. Never have seen any Smoth 10 bore with a FW(E) receiver- YET.


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Runs, don't have any idea of what you are talking about.
This is a Syracuse, N.Y. L.C. Smith, not a Hunter Arms Co. Fulton, N.Y., L.C. Smith.


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Hammerless Syracuse L.C. Smith 10 gauge #20112, Quality 2

Fun gun

FUN READING
https://nanopdf.com/download/syracuse_pdf
This MIGHT seem familiar to you smile

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yes, I know that David. The usual frame size for L.C. Smith guns, no matter where they were made, was the R size frame. I somehow inferred that they had a multitude of frame sizes, as did Parker Bros. RWTF


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long as we are on the subject, how rare is a 20 ga 2e, with fluid steel barrels and a straight grip stock?


the gub mint wants to take watt you got an give hit to sum one else...day call hit tax...
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What year of production?
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dont know yet...could find no others for sale now or in the recent past...

wow, look at this one:

https://www.gunsamerica.com/947882548/L-C-Smith-2E-20-Gauge-1-of-393-MADE-ENGLISH-STOCK-RAR.htm

hope it is as nice as this one...jay does such a great job in presenting his merch...

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the gub mint wants to take watt you got an give hit to sum one else...day call hit tax...
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Looks like first 20 gauge guns were in 1907 starting with serial number 1000
Ejector 20 gauge guns started at serial number 5000

Does this help?

http://www.lcsmith.org/shotguns/manufacture.html

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it will when i get the gun and find out more info...tks for input...

do you have copy of brophy's book? sold mine years ago...


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